The SUN exclusive: Buhari bares it all

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•I’ve not forgiven Obasanjo
•My civil war experiences
•No regret shooting cocaine pushers

From ERIC OSAGIE and PAULINUS AIDOGHIE, Abuja

Ever since the Supreme Court ruled on the 2011 presidential election, former Head of State and candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), General Muhammadu Buhari, has always refused to grant an elaborate interview on his experiences and feelings.

However, on the auspicious occasion of his 70th birthday, Buhari has finally spoken. In an exclusive interview with Saturday Sun, he talked about his growing up days, experiences in the Army, his emergence as head of state when he never participated in any coup, the 1966 coup and the counter-coup, the General Ibrahim Babangida coup that swept him out of office, the execution of cocaine traffickers, Decree 4 and the controversial ‘53 suitcases’ that allegedly came into the country during his government.

He also spoke about his relationship with General Babangida, who he said he had forgiven, although he would not forget what he did to him and his plan for the 2015 elections, among others.

Excerpts:

What kind of childhood did you have?

Well, from my father’s side, we are Fulanis. You know the Fulanis are really divided into two. There are nomads, the ones that if you drive from Maiduguri and many parts of the North you will find. They are even in parts of Delta now. And there are those who settled. They are cousins and the same people actually. From my mother’s side and on her father’s side, we are Kanuris from Kukawa.

Where’s Kukawa?

Kukawa is in Borno State. We are Kanuris. On her mother’s side, we are Hausas. So, you can see I am Hausa, Fulani, Kanuri combined (he laughs).  I am the 23rd child of my father.  Twenty-third  and the 13th on my mother side. There are only two of us remaining now; my sister and I. I went to school, primary school, in Daura and Kaduna, also a primary school, in Kachia. I also attended Kaduna Provincial  Secondary School, now Government College. I didn’t work for a day. I joined the military in 1962.

You mean as a boy soldier?

No, after school certificate. There was an officer cadet school from here in Kaduna, called Nigeria Military Training College then. In April 1962, I went to the United Kingdom (UK), Mons Officers Cadet School.

You mean the famous Mons Officers…?

Yes. And when I was commissioned, I came back and I was posted to 2nd Infantry Battalion in Abeokuta. That was my first posting. The battalion was in the Democratic Republic of Congo. I went there. When I came back from there, I was first in Lagos, as Transport Officer. That was where I was till the January coup. I was posted back to my battalion and we were posted to Kaduna here. And then, there was a counter coup, civil war, coup and counter-coup. We participated. I too was overthrown and detained for more than three years. And having had that major political setback when I was made a head of state and then, ended up in detention, I went out and eventually, I decided to join party politics, participated three times and lost as presidential candidate and I am still in and fighting.

You have never given up?

Even though I said at some stage that I wouldn’t present myself for candidature again, I said I remain in party politics as long as I have breath in me.

Your Excellency, why did you join the Army?

The interest was built while I was in secondary school. The emirs of Katsina, from Dikko, were known to be interested in the military. They always have members of the military or police in their family right from World War 11. One of the emirs of Kaduna-Dikko died in Burma. And of course, everybody in the country knows General Hassan, the son of the Emir of Katsina. He was grandson of Emir Dukko. So, when General Hassan was in Sandhurst, we were in secondary school in Kaduna. His father, the Emir of Katsina, Usman Nagogo, used to ask him to go and talk to the senior students who were in form four to six, to get them interested in the military. And we were told that he deliberately wanted a military cadet unit in Kaduna Secondary School. Then, it was limited to Federal Government Colleges or Government Colleges and we had a military cadet unit, which I joined.

That was the transition?

That was where the interest started.

Did your parents object to it?

No. Well, I didn’t know my father really.

Oh! How old were you when he died?

I think I was about three, four years? I couldn’t remember his face. The only thing I could recall about my father was the horse because it threw me down. We were on the horse with one of my half brothers going to water it and then, it tripped and I fell. It stepped on me. So, that is the only  impression I have of him.  That is the only thing I could recall.

What of your mother?

Oh! my mother died in 1988 when I was in detention.

Ok, I remember then the controversy of allowing you to go and see her buried. Did they eventually allow you?

No.

Then it was quite an issue …

Yeah, it became an issue; so I was immediately released after she was buried.

You didn’t see her buried?

No.

It was after you were released you then went to her grave and all that?

Exactly!

What kind of childhood did you then have?

Well, you know communities then were living communal life. Clearly, I could recall I reared cattle. We had cattle; we had sheep and then, there was good neighbourhood. Not many children had the opportunity to go to school, but I went to school. I left home at the age of 10 or 11 and went to school, like I said. And I was in the boarding school for nine years. In primary school and secondary school, I was in the boarding house and from there, I went straight into the Army.

So, you have always been on your own?

In those days,  there were not many schools and the teachers then were professionals. They were working teachers and were committed. And teachers then treated the children as if they were their own students. You were made to work and if you don’t, they never spared the cane really. So, I was lucky to be in the boarding school for my impressionable years, nine years. I was very lucky.

Did you play any pranks as a young person?

Oh, certainly!

What where the things you did?

(Laughs) I wouldn’t like to mention them.

Tell us some of them…

We used to raid the emir’s orchard for mangoes mainly. Of course, unfortunately we were caught and punished.

When people talk of Buhari today, they are looking at a disciplined man. Was it the boarding house that put you through that or the military?  Was the boarding house part of where you got your Spartan, disciplined life?

Both did. As I told you, the teachers then treated their students as if they were their own children. So, we got the best of attention from teachers. And as I told you, they never spared the cane. You were meant to do your homework; you were meant to do the sports and clean up the environment, the compound and the area of the school and so on. And from that type of life, I moved into the military, the military of that time.

Would you say going into the military was the best thing that ever happened to you?

I think so, because from primary to secondary school and in the military, it will continue, both the academic and the physical one. I think it was so tough, but then, once it was inbuilt, it has to be sustained because you don’t contemplate failure.

You just succeed? Does it mean failure was not an option?

No. It was not.

Was it also the Fulani training of perseverance? Because when you have reared cattle, for those who have been doing it, they said it toughens you…

It did.

The sun is there, the rain and you are there with your cattle…

The period was remarkable, in the sense that those who are brought up in the city have limited space. If you are in a confined school, you learn from the school and what you see immediately. But the nomad life exposes you to nature. You will never learn enough of plants, of trees, of insects and of animals. Everyday you are learning something.

You have seen them and everyday you are learning. You will never know all of them. So, it is so vast that it takes a lot of whatever you can think of. And then, the difference again in the environment. In the Savannah, in the Sahel, after harvest, you can always see as high as your eyes can go. And then, at night when there is moon, it is fantastic. So, I enjoyed those days and they made a lasting impression in me.

 

What are the remarkable things you can think of during your military trainings?

Initially, from here in Kaduna, at the end of your training, the height of the field exercise was then conducted in two places. Here in southern Kaduna and somewhere in Kachia area. There was a thick belt in that forest. You go for field firing and so on. And then you go to Jos for map reading and endurance. That was why mathematics at that level, the secondary school level, geometry and algebra, were absolutely necessary. It had always been,  because to be a competent officer, you may be deployed to be in charge of artillery;  physics, where you help find your position. Wherever you are from, you work it on the ground in degrees and so on. You have to do some mathematics.

We were in Jos. Again, I was made a leader of a small unit. We were given a map, a compass and you dare not cheat. If you are found out, you are taken 10 miles back. So, you have to go across the country. You find your way from the map; you go to certain points and on those points, mostly hills, you climb them and you will get a box. The weather there is cold. You put your own coat and you cover it over the hills and at the end of the exercise, part of your scorecards, are those marks you won or you lost. We arrived with one compass, which led us to a certain bushy hill.

In Jos?

Yes, in Jos. And it was night, dark and it was raining lightly and definitely, our compass led us to that hill, which means there was a point there. And there were five of us: myself, one Sierra Leonean or Ghanaian, one from Sokoto, and one other. I think the other person is Katsina Alu, the former Chief Justice.

You mean he was in the military?

He was. He did the training but he was never commissioned.  He went to university and did Law. I went up to the hill. I picked the box. I copied the code, and I said if I were forced to join the Army, I would have left the following day because that place, a viper or a snake or something or hyena or lion could have finished me. But I said if I run away the following day, people would say well we knew you couldn’t make it, we knew you would be lazy. But because I voluntarily joined the Army, I said I have to be there. That is one point. The second one was when I was in training in the UK. I came there and we were drilled so much and at night again, we were on an exercise. We were putting our formation. In anyway position was created, and they fired at us. We went down automatically that day and by the time the commander asked us to move, I fell asleep. It must be few seconds, not up to a minute. That was how exhausted I was.

Was it really the cold or what?

It was cold. It was 1962. It was cold and it was rainy again just like in Plateau. Just between the time we went down and to move and climb the mountain, I fell asleep. So, those two moments, I would never forget them.

Who were your classmates in the military and in the officers’ training in the UK?

Well, the late Gen. Yar’Adua. I was together with him throughout the nine years primary, secondary school and in the military.

So, you have always been colleagues…?

We were together from childhood.

Ok, that is interesting. Who else?

Well, not the ones that are here. In the military, most of them did not reach the position I reached; myself, and Yar’Adua. They couldn’t make it.

Why did you choose the infantry and not the other arms? What was the attraction?

Maybe it was the training of the cadet unit in secondary school. I found the infantry much more challenging and when we were doing the training, the Federal Government decided that we were going to have the Air Force. So, I was invited. A team came from the Ministry of Defence to interview cadets that wanted to be  fighter pilots in the Air Force. I was the first to be called in our group. I appeared before them and they told me that those who could pass the interview would be recommended to go to the Air Force training either in the UK, some went to Ethiopia or United States or Germany. So, they asked me whether I wanted to be a fighter pilot and I said no. They asked why, and I said I wasn’t interested. We were given three choices. Number one, maybe you went to infantry; number two, you went to reconnaissance then before they became armour and later, maybe artillery. So, all my three choices, I could recall vividly, I put infantry, infantry. So, they said why? I said because I liked infantry. And they asked if I wouldn’t like to be a fighter pilot. I said no, I didn’t want to join them. They said why. I said I hadn’t done physics. Normally, I did some mathematics but to be a fighter pilot, you must do some physics. They said no, that it was no problem, that I could have an additional one academic year. So, since I had some  mathematics background, it was just one year purely to do physics and I would reach the grade required to be a pilot. I said no, I didn’t want it. They again asked why. I told them I chose infantry. The reason is: when I am fighting and I was shot at, if I was not hit, I can go down, turn back and take off by foot. They laughed and sent me out. So, I remained infantry officer.

Where were you during the coups and counter-coups? And what rank were you in the military then?

I was in Lagos, in the barracks, as transport officer. I was only a second lieutenant.

That was during the January 15, 1966 coup?

Yes, January 15, 1966.

The coup met you in Lagos?

Yes. I think that was my saddest day in the military because I happened to know some of the senior officers that were killed. In the transport company, after the 2nd Battalion and we came back, I was posted to Lagos to be a transport officer and in my platoon, we had staff cars and Landrovers. So, I knew the Army officers, from Ironsi, Maimalari, because I detailed vehicles for them every working day. So, I knew senior officers.

So, you were in contact with them?

I was in contact with them somehow because I was in charge of transportation.

Where were you that night of January 15 coup?

I was in Lagos.

Can you recall the circumstance, how you got to know?

The way I got to know was, my routine then was as early as about six in the morning, I used to drive to the garage to make sure that all vehicles for officers,  from the General Officer Commanding (GOC), who was then General Ironsi, were roadworthy and the drivers would drive off. And then, I would go back to the Officers Mess in Yaba, where I would wash, have my breakfast and come back to the office. And around the railway crossing in Yaba, coming out from the barracks, we saw a wounded soldier. I stopped because I was in a Landrover. I picked him and asked what happened. He said he was in the late Maimalari’s house and they were having a party the previous night and the place was attacked. So, I took the soldier to the military hospital in Yaba and I asked after the commander. Maimalari, I think, was commander of 2 Brigade in Apapa. He was the 2 Brigade Commander. They said he was shot and killed.

Then, you didn’t know it was a coup?

Well, that became a coup. That was the time I really learnt it was a coup.

And then there was a counter-coup of July?

Yes, July.

Where were you at this time also?

I was in Lagos again. I was still in Lagos then at Apapa at 2 Brigade Transport Company.

And then, there was ethnic colouration and all that. And at a point, they asked some of you to go back to the North. Am I correct?

Yes, because I was posted back then to the battalion. That was in Abeokuta. It was first to Ikeja Cantonment, but after the counter-coup, we were taken to Lagos by train, the whole battalion.

Did you play any role in the counter-coup?

No! Not that I will tell you.

You know at 70, you are reminiscing. You are saying it the way it is, you don’t give a damn anymore…

Well, there was a coup. That is all I can tell you. I was a unit commander and certainly, there was a breakdown of law and order. So, I was posted to a combatant unit, although 2 Brigade Transport Company was a combatant unit. You know there were administrative and combatant units and the service unit, like health, education. Even transport, there are administrative ones, but there are combatant ones also.

The question I asked was, did you play any specific role?

No. I was too junior to play any specific role. I was just a lieutenant then. In 1966, January, I was a Second Lieutenant, but I was promoted, I think, around April, May, or June to Lieutenant.

And what were your impressions of that period?

You see, senior military officers had been killed and politicians, like Sardauna, Akintola, Okotie Eboh. They were killed. And then in the military, Maimalari, Yakubu Pam, Legima, Shodeinde, and Ademolegun; so really, it had a tribal tinge.

The first one?

Yes. And then, there was a counter.

One mistake gave birth to another one?

Certainly, certainly.

And then long years of military came?

Oh yes.

From 1967-75, it was Gowon. At that point in time, where were you?

When Gowon came into power, I wonder whether I would recall where I was. It was July 1967 that Gowon came in. That was when I was in Lagos. I was again in Lagos, then in the transport company.

Then he took over?

Yeah, Gowon took over or Gowon was installed.

Well, more like you…

(Laughs) Yes.

And then in 1967?

Civil war.

So, you have to give me that part because there are some books I have read, that featured your name. So, what were your experiences during the civil war?

Well, I told you that we were parked into the rail to Kaduna from Ikeja, 2nd Infantry Battalion and when states were created by General Gowon, police action was ordered; we were moved to the border in the East. We were not in Nsukka, but in Ogoja. We started from Ogoja.

And you took active part?

Yeah. Well, I was a junior officer.

Who was your GOC then?

My GOC was the late General Shuwa.

How did you feel during that period of the civil war? Did you think that when the first coup started,  that civil war would just come?

No. I never felt so and I never hoped for it. Literally, you are trained to fight a war but you are not trained to fight a war within your own country. We would rather have enemies from outside your country to defend your country, but not to fight among yourselves.

Some of those officers you were fighting were your comrades…

They were.

You knew some of them.

Some of them were even my course mates. We were facing each other, like when we were in Awka sector. The person facing me was called Bob Akonobi. We were mates here.

Robert Akonobi?

Robert Akonobi.

Who later became a governor?

Yes. He was my course mate here in Kaduna.

And there you were…

Facing each other.

It was really crazy.

It was. It was unfortunate, but it is part of our national development.

And the way we are going, you think it is a possibility again?

I don’t think so. No, I don’t think so.

After Gowon, Murtala came.

Yes.

By the time you were no longer a small officer…

No. I was just, I think, a colonel? Was it a lieutenant colonel or major? I think I was a lieutenant colonel.

But during the Obasanjo administration, you had become a minister, as it were.

No. I first became a governor when Murtala came, in North-East.

This same North East that is giving problem now.

Yes. I was there and there were six states then: Yobe, Borno, Bauchi, Gombe, Adamawa and Taraba.

And they were all under your control or command?

North East went up to Chad; anyway, they are on the same latitude with Lagos. The bottom before you start going on the Plateau, Mambilla Plateau, if you look here on the map, the same latitude was in Lagos and then, up to Chad. That was the extent of the whole North East.

Now, some of them can’t govern even one state…

They are now six states.

I know, but you governed six states and now, some of them have problems with one state…

Yes.

What were the challenges you faced governing the North East as a military governor?

Actually, at that time, because of competent civil service… I was a military man but once you get to the rank of a lieutenant-colonel, after major, you are being taught some management courses. It needs a few weeks for somebody who has gone through the military management training, you have junior staff college, senior staff college; by that time, you will have enough experience for most administrative jobs because you must have had enough of the combat ones. I think I didn’t have much problem. And then, the competent civil servants. Civil servants then were very professional.

And not political as we have them now?

No. They were really professionals and they can disagree with you on record, on issues.

They were not afraid to make recommendations to the military governor or administrator?

No, they were never. People like the late Liman Ciroma, Waziri Fika, who was eventually Secretary to the Government of Babangida. And the late Abubakar Umar, who was Secretary to the Government of Bauchi State; and the late Moguno. They were real professionals, committed technocrats.

So, you didn’t really have much challenges?

No, not much challenges.

There was no insecurity then, like we have in the North East today?

No, the police then, with their Criminal Investigation Department (CID), were very, very competent. They interacted closely with the people. So, criminals in the locality were easily identified and put under severe surveillance. And really, there was relative peace in the country.

What were your major achievements in the North East as governor?

I think the way the state was divided into three; if you remember, it became Borno, Bauchi and Gongola. So, the way we divided the assets, including the civil service and so on, I think it was one of our achievements because it was so peaceful then. We had a committee on civil service.

And eventually you became minister of petroleum under Obasanjo?

Yes.

That was the only ministry you held under Obasanjo?

Yes.

During your time as petroleum minister, what were you doing differently that they are not doing now that has made the  sector totally rotten?

Well, I was lucky again. When I was made a minister, I met an experienced man, a person of great personal integrity,  the late Sunday Awoniyi.  He was the permanent secretary then before the Supreme Military Council approved the merger of the Nigerian National Oil Corporation (NNOC) and the Ministry of Petroleum Resources and  made Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). Sunday Awoniyi was then the permanent secretary of the ministry. That was when I was sworn in eventually, I think in 1977, it became NNPC when the ministry and the NNOC were merged. He retired from the civil service. Another competent technocrat, Morinho, he became the Director of Petroleum Resources and he had a very competent team of Nigerian engineers, petroleum engineers and chemical engineers. And as minister of petroleum, I signed the contract for Warri Refinery, for Kaduna Refinery, for more than 20 depots all over the country, for laying of pipelines, more than 3200 kilometers and I couldn’t recall Nigeria borrowing a kobo for those projects. And then, by the time I became head of state, because I went to War College in the United States before the military handed over to the Second Republic and came back in 1980 and then, there was coup at the end of 1983. And that time, you can verify from Professor Tam David-West who was Minister of Petroleum Resources. We were exporting 100,000 barrels per day of refined products.

Exporting from the country?

Yes, refined one.

Refined one, not the raw one they are taking to import to…?

No.

100, 000 barrels?

Yes. Because we had four refineries then.

They have all collapsed…

Well, that is the efficiency of the subsequent governments!

You achieved so much success and all that. But there was an issue that became quite contentious: N2.8billion. They said N2.8billion oil money was missing.

It couldn’t have been missing. The governor of the Central Bank then, the late Clement Isong, said it was ridiculous, that N2.8billion couldn’t be missing because he said even the king of Saudi Arabia, couldn’t issue a cheque of N2.8billion. When you have paid your money for petroleum, they are normally put in the country’s external account and no bank will release that amount of money at a go because it was deposited. And then, at that time, Nigeria was exporting about 1.82 million barrels a day. And the cost of barrel a day was about $18. You work out N2.8billion. How could N2.8billion be missing and we still have money to run the country? So, it was just a political…

How did that issue come about? What happened and how did you feel during that period?

No, no. Shagari did the only honourable thing. He ordered a judicial enquiry and put a serving Justice of the Supreme Court, the late Justice Irikefe, to carry out investigation.  And their terms of reference were put there. They said anybody who had an idea of missing N2.8billion, let him come and tell Justice Irikefe. Nobody had any evidence. It was just rubbish. Well, later, Tai Solarin and Professor Awojobi were confronted and Fela, the late Fela, to go and prove their case.  They had no evidence,  most of them took the newspaper  cuttings of their allegations to the tribunal.

As evidence?

As their evidence…Cuttings of newspapers publications where they said N2.8billion was missing. That was their evidence. That was what they took to the Irikefe panel.

And Fela sang about it! Fela was your friend.

He couldn’t have been, because of what Obasanjo regime did to him. Because we were part of Obasanjo regime.

 

There is one other incident that has also been in the public domain: that Shagari gave you an order and you disobeyed your commander-in-chief. What happened then?

Which order was that?

That he gave you an instruction not to go to war against Chad or something like that?

Well, that was when I became GOC. When I came back from War College, I was in Lagos. Then, 4 Infantry Division was in Lagos, in Ikeja. I was in War College when I was posted there before General Obasanjo’s government handed over to Shagari. So, when I came, after about four months or so, I was posted to Ibadan, to command 2 Infantry Division. And after that, I was posted to Jos to command 3rd Armoured Division. It was when I was there as the GOC that the Chadians attacked some of our troops in some of the islands and killed five of them, took some military hardware and some of our soldiers. Then, I went into Army headquarters and told them then, the Chief of Army Staff then, General Wushishi, why they shouldn’t just allow a country, our neighbour to move into our territory, where we had stationed, to kill our people. So, I moved into Maiduguri, former Tactical Headquarters, and I got them out of the country. Something dramatic happened: I didn’t know I had gone beyond Chad and somehow, Shagari, in the United States, was sent pictures that I was with my troops and had gone beyond Chad, beyond Lake Chad. So, I was given direct order by the president to pull out and I did.

Oh, you did?

I did. I couldn’t have disobeyed the president. So, I handed over the division to Colonel Ogukwe, who was my course mate but was my…

He was in National Population Commission (NPC)?

I think so. Colonel Ogukwe. Yeah, he must have been. I handed over the tactical headquarters to him.

So, you never went against presidential directive?

I couldn’t have. He was the Commander-in-Chief. But maybe it was too slow for them,  for me to withdraw, but you don’t disengage so quickly.

But after that, Shagari was overthrown?

Yes.

Now, they said you were invited to head the government after the coup?

Yes.

As the most senior officer?

Yes.

What really happened because it was not a Buhari coup?

No.

Could we say you never plotted a coup throughout your military career?

No. I didn’t plot a coup.

You were not a coup plotter?

No.

You were invited?

Yes.

Where were you when you were invited?

I was in Jos. They sent a jet to me flown by one of General Gowon’s younger brothers. He was a pilot. He told me that those who conducted the coup had invited me for discussion.

You went to Lagos?

I went to Lagos. I was flown to Lagos. Yes. And they said ok, those who were in charge of the coup had said that I would be the head of state. And I was.

When you made that statement that ‘this generation of Nigerians has no country other than Nigeria,’ for me it was like a JFK statement asking Americans to think of what they  could do for America. Twenty months after, your same colleagues who invited you sacked you. What happened?

They changed their minds.

They changed their minds? So, what happened in between that, because part of what they said when they took over power was that you had become “too rigid, too uncompromising and arrogated knowledge of problems and solutions to yourself and your late deputy, Idiagbon. What really happened?

Well, I think you better identify those who did that and interview them so that they can tell you what happened. From my own point of view, I was the chairman of the three councils, which, by change of the constitution, were in charge of the country. They were the Supreme Military Council, the Executive Council and the National Council of State. I was the chairman of all. Maybe when you interview those who were part of the coup, they will tell you my rigidity and whether I worked outside those organs: the Supreme Military Council, the Council of State and the Council of Ministers.

Before I come to that, there was also this issue of Decree 4, alleged drug peddlers who your regime ordered shot.  Looking back now, do you think you made mistake in those areas?

You see, maybe my rigidity could be traced to our insistence on the laws we made. But we decided that the laws must be obeyed.

But they said it was retroactive.

Yes, they said so. But I think it should be in the archive; we said  that whoever brought in drugs and made Nigeria a transit point committed an offence. These drugs, We We (Indian hemp), is planted here, but the hard drug, cocaine, most Nigerians don’t know what cocaine is. They just made Nigeria a transit point and these people did it just to make money. You can have a certain people who grow Ashisha or We We and so on because it is indigenous. Maybe some people are even alleging that those who want to come for operation, brought the seed and started to grow it in Nigeria. But cocaine, it is alien to our people. So, those who used Nigeria as a transit, they just did it to make money. And this drug is so potent that it destroys people, especially intelligent people. So, the Supreme Military Council did a memo. Of course, I took the memo to the Supreme Military Council and made recommendation and the Supreme Military Council agreed.

There was no dissenting voice?

There was no dissenting in the sense that majority agreed that this thing, this cocaine, this hard drug was earning Nigeria so much bad name in the international community because Nigeria was not producing it, but Nigerians that wanted to make money didn’t mind destroying Nigerians and other youths in other countries just to make money. So, we didn’t need them. We didn’t need them.

But there were pleas by eminent Nigerians not to kill the three men involved in the trafficking?

Pleas, pleas; those that they destroyed did they listen to their pleas for them not to make hard drug available to destroy their children and their communities?

So, it is not something you look back now at 70 and say it was an error?

No, it was not an error. It was deliberate. I didn’t do it as an head of state by fiat. We followed our proper system and took it. If I was sure that the Supreme Military Council then, the majority of them decided that we shouldn’t have done so, we could have reduced it to long sentencing. But people who did that, they wanted money to build fantastic houses, maybe to have houses in Europe and invest. Now, when they found out that if they do it, they will get shot, then they will not live to enjoy at the expense of a lot of people that became mental and became harmful and detrimental to the society and so on, then they will think twice.

Decree 4 was what you used to gag the press?

Decree 4. You people (press), you brought in Nigeria factor into it. When people try to get job or contract and they couldn’t get it, they make a quick research and created a problem for people who refuse to do them the favour. What we did was that you must not embarrass those civil servants.  If you have got evidence that somebody was corrupt, the courts were there. Take the evidence to court; the court will not spare whoever it was. But you don’t just go and write articles that were embarrassing.

But don’t you think you went too far?

What do you mean by going too far?

But you went to the extreme that public officers could do no wrong, as if they were saints. You called the decree ‘Protection of Public Officers Against False Accusation,’ and clamped down on the media.  

Those who did it, the editors, the reporters, we jailed them. But we never closed a whole institution, as others did. We investigated and prosecuted according to the laws, because shutting a newspaper, it is an institution and we lose thousands of jobs. But we found out who made that false report, who was the editor, who okayed it and then, we jailed them.

No regret?

No regret, because we did it according to the laws we made.  We neither closed a whole institution and caused job losses.

Then, you left power, 20 months after…

No. I was sent packing from power.

Ok, you didn’t leave on your own volition?

No.

That is a good one. For Nigerians, they remember War Against Indiscipline you brought. What was the philosophy behind it?

Well, I think we realised that the main problem of Nigeria, then and now, was indiscipline and corruption. When I say we, I mean the Supreme Military Council. Those two, are Nigeria’s Achilles heels. And I believe the Nigeria elite knew it then and they know it now.  So, we started to discipline them. People must realise their level in the society and accept it. If you go and read hard and get a PhD, certainly you will get the best of life than somebody who hasn’t been to school at all or who has been a drop-out. And then, in the public, people must behave responsibly. If you go to bus stops, it is step-by-step or turn-by-turn,  and not to force your way. If you go to bank, you find out if people were there before you. Why can’t you go behind them?

Or you come early and be number one.

Exactly! I think that was accepted. And up till now, I think it is the only thing that survived out of our administration, the queue culture. People accepted it with calmness. And in Lagos, they wouldn’t like to associate themselves with the military, so they call it KAI. That is right. Kick Against Indiscipline. But it is still the same thing. It is the same. The only difference is that one was brought by the military and this one is through democratic system.

When you were eased out of power and you had time to reflect for three years, what did you then see that was wrong?

We gave them the opportunity in the three councils I told you. Those rules are supposed to be in the Nigerian archives, except somebody destroyed them, destroyed the evidence. Otherwise, what did we do wrong to warrant being sacked? For example, when we overthrew the Second Republic, we had what we called the SIP, the Special Investigation Panel that comprised the police, the National Security Organisation (NSO) then and the intelligence community of the military. We did nothing by impulse or ad hoc. We went through the system.

And then, you handed down long jail terms, some 100 years. That was something else.  Why did you do that?

They would never see the daylight again to commit another crime against humanity.

Would you say your detention period made you a new person?

I think I have always been the same person. When I came out, I was amazed, amazed in the sense that people in my immediate constituency didn’t seem to bother about the major setback I had. They were still coming to me, expecting me to help them in a way. Not in terms of material help, because they knew that I didn’t operate any money house or any petroleum bloc or any filling station…

How can you say a whole oil minister like you didn’t have any oil licence?

No. Not one, and not any for any blood relation or anybody close to me. Really, somehow, people in my community felt that I can still help them. But with that setback, I was wondering how. So, the only way for me, I think, was to join  partisan politics so that I can have a platform to speak about the opinion of my constituency, immediate constituency. But the thing that convinced me more than the pressure from immediate locality was the change in 1991, the collapse of the Soviet Union. I have said this so often that an empire in the 20th century, collapsed and a lot of people ran back home, leaving strategic installations behind, like missile sites, nuclear formation and so on. And now, there are about 18 to 19 or 20 republics. It was then that I believed,  personally, in my own assessment, that multi-party democratic system was and is still superior to despotism.

That was your turning point?

That was the turning point. But there is a big caveat: elections must be free and fair! And that is what we need. Elections must be free and fair, otherwise, the whole thing will be something else.

During your tenure, one case kept coming up: the 53 suitcases. You had ordered the border shut and your Aide de Camp (ADC), Major Jokolo, was alleged to have escorted 53 suitcases into the country. What happened? Why were you selective?

There was nothing like 53 suitcases. What happened was that there was my chief of protocol; he is now late. He had three wives, and I think about 12 children. He was in Saudi Arabia as Nigeria Ambassador to Saudi Arabia. He was in Libya before, as ambassador and later, he was posted to Saudi Arabia. And then, I appointed him as my chief of protocol and he was coming back. Three wives, about 12 children. And then, by some coincidence, the late Emir of Gwandu, the father of Jokolo, who was my ADC then, was coming back with the same flight. And somehow, some mischievous fellows, everything, including the handbag of maybe, their small daughters, were counted as suitcases. Atiku then was the Commandant of Murtala Muhammed Airport as customs officer. And that day, we were playing squash. Jokolo my ADC and I. At some point, I said to him, ‘Mustapha, is your father not coming back today again?’ He said, ‘yes, sir, he is coming.’  I said, ‘what are you doing here? Why can’t you go and meet your father?’ He said yes, sir. He went to wash and meet his father. I am telling you there was no 53 bags of suitcases. It was a bloody lie. It was a bloody mischief.

So, not that he was detailed?

No, he was not detailed. He was not even about to go. I was the one who made him to go and meet his father. He was a respected emir, in fact, if not the most respected emir in the North then. He was learned, he had fantastic credibility and personal integrity. And this man was just coming on posting with his wives and children and they counted every imaginable thing, they said 53 suitcases.

Was that why Atiku was retired?

I don’t know. I don’t know. I don’t think I retired Atiku. I can’t recall because I had nothing against anybody.

But the argument was that the border was ordered shut. So, how did those people then come in?

They came by air. We didn’t stop aircraft coming in. They came by air, from Jedda to Lagos. They didn’t drive through Chad to Maiduguri and… People just say 53 suitcases when all borders had been ordered shut because that is how you can sell your papers.

Then you came into politics and every election you are there. Would you still do politics at 70 years, elective politics, offering yourself for election?

This is what I told the audience that came to listen to my address before we started the campaign for the 2011 elections. But my party and supporters were sending representatives. Up till today, they haven’t stopped. But what I told them was that we are in the process now of reorganising the party and perhaps, come into an alignment with other parties. Whatever the parties decide, whether my party or the new party that align and we are hoping to develop; if they give me the ticket or recommend me, I will consider it. That is the position we are now.

Until you get to that stage you can give a definite answer?

Until we get to that stage, there is no clear answer now. Let’s wait and see.

Is it that you don’t like money? Anytime somebody sees you, they say General Buhari is so austere. What gave you that kind of lifestyle? Nobody is associating you with millions. My reporter here was pointing to one mansion of a former governor who just ruled for eight years. So, how did you develop this frugal lifestyle? Is it that you don’t like good life? How do you unwind? Well, some of us have heard that you used to smoke. Do you still smoke? What are those things you have given up?

I used to smoke, but of course, I abandoned it I think in 1977.

Oh really? Before you became head of state?

Yes, I stopped smoking.

Have you ever taken alcohol?

No.

Never?

Never.

Even as a young man and all that?

No, no. Even in the military tradition, how they break you in, I said well, the military did not stop anybody practising his religion. My religion said no alcohol and no alcohol. So, that was respected. I was never forced to take alcohol and I have never voluntarily taken it because I want to remain alert all the time. There is a tendency that when you drink, you would want to have a bottle more, or a glass more and do something stupid.

As a young man, very handsome because I saw some of your old pictures, did you have women flocking around you? And women like soldiers, people who have power…

I also thought women ought to have taken more interest in me but I don’t know why they didn’t. I must have something they didn’t like. I assure you of that. I didn’t drink, I smoked, I had girlfriends; it was true.

How many did you have?

I hope you won’t publish this because my wife will read the interview. So, you will be very kind to me if you don’t publish that (general laughter).

You joined the army and there was coup and counter-coup and civil war. You still had time to unwind?

You can create it but we had too much eventful time, professional career. It was too eventful. There were too many things happening almost at the same time. If I could recall, the 30 months civil war that we had, I was just having two weeks after every six months to come back home just to see my old mother and some of my relatives because I refused to get married till after the war.

Was it deliberate?

It was deliberate.

Why? I thought that would have been the reason to get married.

No, no. Some of our colleagues, like late Vatsa, like Babangida, they were more adventurous than myself. They took a weekend and had a quick marriage and went back to the front. I thought I would be putting the poor girl or the poor woman under a lot of stress. So, I said if I survived the war, I would get married, but if I didn’t survive, no woman should cry for me other than my relatives.

Some of your General-colleagues became stupendously rich. Today, they have means. I am not a lawyer taking inventory of your assets or preparing your will, but tell me what property do you have now at 70? I am sure you have a house in Abuja, you have one in Lagos.  You have one in Daura and you have one here (Kaduna). So, if I count your property, maybe five. Am I right or wrong?

You are right but am not going to read or declare with you. My assets were on record, I told some of your colleagues when they came. When Murtala/Obasanjo regime came, they made sure that certain grades of public officers must declare their assets when they assumed that office and they must declare when they were leaving. So, when I was sworn in as governor of North East, I declared my assets.

What did you declare?

I declared surprisingly, even the number of  my cows then. Even if they were supposed to be producing every year, but I declared them the time I was there. And when I was leaving governorship, I became petroleum minister. When I was leaving to go to War College, I declared my assets. I could recall General Jemibewon then, was the Adjutant-General of the Army. He rang me and said he was sending me asset declaration form, that I must fill it, sign it before I left for the United States. And I did. General Jemibewon is still alive. And when I became head of state eventually, I declared my assets again. So, all of us; when I say that, I mean Obasanjo downwards, those who are alive who were governors, ministers, head of states, they had declared assets. So, if you people are serious and interested about political officers becoming multi-billionaires, you can find out from Murtala downwards. And those of us who were not very good in making money you should pity us.

Is it that you don’t like money?

Everybody likes money but I am not very good at making money. Let me put it that way. I borrowed from the banks to build the house in Daura and the one in Abuja that you mentioned and the one in Kano. The bank then was Barclays, now Union Bank. Kaduna State or North Central then housing scheme and the Federal Mortgage Bank for the house I am in and AIB, which was, I think, terminated by Central Bank. So, when you go through the records, you find out that the houses I built, I borrowed from there.

You are a respected former head of state. What is your relationship with others, Obasanjo, your former boss and at a point, your political opponent, General Babangida, the man who took over from you and then, Shagari…

You are very nice. He took over from me and I took over from Shagari. You are very nice.

I want to be polite.

You are very nice. Ok, carry on.

What is your relationship with them. I see some parts of patching up here and there, but when a man is 70, you say it the way it is. What is your relationship with all these people I have mentioned now, deep down?

I think the worst thing anybody can do to oneself is to have either hatred or grudge on daily basis. One thing will happen and you better forget.

Have you forgiven Babangida now? You once said you felt betrayed over the coup against your government?

I did. Publicly, I did.

You have?

I have and some of your papers published it. I said as a Muslim, I have forgiven him.

But during that period it happened, you must have been really angry?

Of course, I was angry because I can’t recall what I had done for him to mobilise the military to overthrow me and detain me for more than three years. Yeah, it is natural for me to be upset.

Were you going to retire him before your overthrow, as has been alleged? This is an opportunity to lay it  because we have heard those speculations that you were going to retire him and he moved against you quickly.

Something like that happened but not him. I moved to retire his Director of Military Intelligence.

Akilu?

General Aliyu, not Akilu.

Aliyu?

Aliyu Gusau.

You were going to retire him?

Yes. I took a paper to Army Council. Babangida was there…

As the Chief of Army Staff.

Yes. Idiagbon was there, Bali was there as Minister of Defence, and I was there as the head of state and commander-in-chief. And reasons for him to be removed was in that memo. Go and find out from him or from Babangida. They are both alive.

Not against Babangida per se?

No.

But if you touched Gusau, his intelligence chief, invariably, you were going to inch towards the Chief of Army Staff, Babangida. Eventually, he might have been touched.

I didn’t know but at that point, it was Aliyu Gusau.

You were inching closer?

Yes, we were inching closer. You could say that.

But you have forgiven him for all that happened.

I have forgiven him. I said it and it was printed by some of your colleagues. But I didn’t say it will be forgotten. It cannot be forgotten. If I say I forget about it, I will be lying. But I have forgiven him,  just as I expect Shagari to forgive me as the one who succeeded him.

But Shagari said you detained him and then…

I too, was detained (general laughter).

Ok, what of Obasanjo? What kind of relationship do you have?

Obasanjo; he mobilized Nigerian voters against me.

But you have forgiven him?

No, I haven’t forgiven him (laughter).

Finally now, finally, finally, finally…

I don’t know when your final will come to a real final.

No, this is the end now. If the end comes,  how do you want Nigerians to remember you,  if you have the chance to write your epitaph?

I want Nigerians to be fair to me. Like this case of 53, 55 suitcases, like the case of N2.8billion. I want Nigerians to be fair and to be fair, all these documents are in the Nigerian archives. As I said, I didn’t do anything important outside the three organs of government: the Supreme Military Council, Council of States and Council of Ministers. On serious issues, Nigerians should do some research. That is why I always make emphasis on investigative journalism. If you want to be fair and impartial, I am sure you can have the capacity, both intellectual and resource to make an in-depth investigation.

Nigerians should be fair to you?

They should be fair to me.

 Your daughter just passed on?

She would have been 40 before she died.

Oh, when life was just beginning.

Yes.

What was the circumstance? Some said she was a sickler; she had sickle cell anemia.

She was a sickler and she had complication when she was delivered by Caesarian.

And that remains a very sad incident for you.

Yes.

Thank you, General.

You are always welcome.

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  1. Buhari is an ethinic jingoist, and an unforgiving human being ,I don’t know what he is looking for in power at his age now

    • Its just a waste of time talking to sadist like buhari-added to the fact that the man has problem with his memory-let him go and rear cows for now-Nigerian is not a conquered fulani territory-its time somebody tells him to retire-again was the order to lynch Nigerians which he gave in 2011, also a directive from the military high command? So late Fela is friend to OBJ-cause both are yorubas-and he wants to rule Nigeria with the help of tinubu-it will never happen in this our generation

      • This ur stupidity of tribalism shld stop, we ar luking 4 progres now in nigeria, look at dis ur mumu broda GEJ doing.

      • PEOPLE WRITING AGAINST GENERAL BUHARI IN THIS FORUM HAVE NO SENSE OF REASONS. MAYBE THEY SHOULD LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL. THATS WHY I CALLED NIGERIA ‘BIG BLIND COUNTRY’. TOO MUCH EDUCATION WITH NO SENSE OF DIRECTION.

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    • i think that general buhari as a man is a highly disciplined man very intelligent and highly rigid to his beliefs and opinions as a military head of state ruling with decrees buhari will do well but in nigerian democracy,buhari if by any magic he becomes d head of state will eventually be d first nigerian president to be impeached by the national assembly which will cause un imaginable disaster in the polity the reason being that buhari can not accept opposition and can not endure d criticism of nigerian press and d propaganda of the sw .go and ask ANPP people or ask cpc members even this tinubu if he will say d truth will remember why the cpc and acn merger collapsed in 2011 .if power must return to d north in 2015 ,let us have a detribalised northerner like father KUKA,SHEHU SANNI,ATIKU,MARWA, ETC or lets forget this south north issue and give it to AKPABIO,FASHOLA,OBI,OKROCHA,ADAMS ,etc.buhari is now 70yrs he is no longer visioning ,he is now in dreams.lets look for an akpabio a man with an uncommon vision.

    • ENYI OHA December 22, 2012 at 9:18 pm – Reply

      ROMMEL, YOU ARE SPOTS ON AND MORE CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT THIS FULANI ISLAMIC HEGEMONIST NEED BE EXPOSED FOR THE GULLIBLE NIGERIANS TO KNOW THE REAL BUHARI. HE CAN NEVER FORGIVE OBASANJO BUT HAS FORGIVEN HIS FELLOW MOSLEM IBB AND HOPES MOSLEM SHAGARI HAS FORGIVEN HIM. OBVIOUSLY, HIS MOSLEM RELIGION TEACHES HIM TO FORGIVE FELLOW MOSLEMS BUT NOT CHRISTIANS.BEING SMART BY HALF WILL NOT ABSOLVE HIM FROM ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE COUNTER COUP OF JULY 1966,ACQUIESCENCE TO THE WAVES OF POGROMS OF 1966 AND TRUNCATION OF SHAGARI’S SECOND REPUBLIC FOR EVER CONTEMPLATING HANDING OVER TO EKWUEME IN 1987. WHY MUST HE BE PRESIDENT IF HE KNOWS ANYTHING LIKE EQUITY?WHY CAN HE NOT CHAMPION FOR A NIGERIAN PRESIDENT OF IGBO EXTRACTION?MUST WE BE BEHOLDEN TO THE FULANI?I MUST SAY THAT HIS VAUNTED DISCIPLINE AND UPRIGHTNESS REGARDING THE PUBLIC PURSE IS GOOD BUT THE INGRAINED IDEA OF FULANI ISLAMIC HEGEMONY IS AS MUCH A FORM OF CORRUPTION AS MATERIAL ONE. HE MUST RETIRE TO WRITE HIS MEMOIRE AND LEAVE THE STAGE FOR EDUCATED AND COSMOPOLITAN MODERATES WHO WILL IMPLEMENT ROTATIONAL PRESIDENCY AND GOVERNMENT OF CONSOSCIATION.

  2. Obasanjo did not lose anything if u failed to forgive what ever grievances existed between two of you. Does it mean that your religion did not preach forgiveness ? But i must still commend your good character as an individual with highly disciplined attitude which is still being found wanting today among our present generations and their leaders.

  3. Gen. Buhari is perhaps the only Nigerian leader who served the people rather than himself. He deserves more respect than he is getting.

  4. People like Junior have been brain washed by PDP. Read the article very well and you will agree with many good people of Nigerians that Buhari is the only man now that can wipe away corruption and fix the economy. He did it before and he will do it again. Buhari be rest assured that you have gotten one Igbo man’s vote come 2015 in the person of Bittertruth.

    I know with you as president, we will once again become an exporter of petrol not importing it from Niger republic.

    However, my advice to you is to starting giving more speeches to the universities all over the country about your vision for Nigeria. Assure Nigerians especially the youths that you not what PDP has portrayed you to be.

    If you follow this simple advice, you with Pastor Tunde Bakare will win the election come 2015 in Jesus Name — Amen.

  5. @Bittertruth, i align completely with your comment on Buhari’s interview above.
    I am a Yoruba man but i have been Buhari’s fan since the time he was Head of State in 1983 because he was one Head State who brought discipline to all spheres of our humanity, so killing those drug dealers was to curb the urge of getting rich quick that was taking over the Country then and which was later legalized by Babangida who over threw and took over from Buhari.
    Nigeria would been a disciplined and prosperous country if Buhari had stayed up to eight years like corrupt Babangida government.
    I pray God grants Buhari good health and long life to enable him contest presidential election on the platform of merged opposition party in 2015, i will make myself available to join the campaign train in South West to actualize his victory against who ever PDP presents as a presidential candidate in 2015.
    We need a good man like Buhari to bring hope back to the majority hopeless people in Nigeria and i advise ACN and Tinubu to work towards achieving the merger with CPC and other progressive Parties that would save Nigeria from total collapse.

    • You speak well. I’m wid u dere. We can’t point another person within an inch of the Gen pedigree. Forget about prejudice there is non like him.

    • Uzoh from lagos on

      ACN AND CPC WILL NOT MERGE AND IF THEY DO EASTERN NIGERIA WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEM.WE WILL NOT ABANDON PDP AND APGA TO FOLLOW TWO PARTIES THAT DID NOT CONSIDER US AS STAKEHOLDERS IN NIGERIA.
      BUHARI HAS DONE HIS BEST,HE SHOULD ALLOW YOUNGER ONES TO CONTRIBUTE THEIR OWN QUOTA.IN 1966 WHEN PARTICIPATED IN THE COUNTER COUP OF JULY 29TH,1966 HE WAS JUST 26 YEARS OLD AND IN 1975 WHEN HE BECAME FEDERALCOMMISSIONER FOR PETROLEUM HE WAS 35 YEARS OLD.HE SHOULD GIVE US A BREAK,HE WAS PART OF NIGERIAN PROBLEMS HE IS NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEMS HE CREATED.
      TODAY BOKO HARAM IS RAVAGING MAJOR NORTHERN STATES BECAUSE HE LOST ELCTION TO JONATHAN GOODLUCK FROM IJAW TRIBE THAT HAVE COLLUDED WITH THE NORTH AT ALL STAGES IN OUR NATIONAL LIFE.HE HAS FORGIVEN IBB BUT NOT OBASANJO,HE ALSO EXPECTS SHAGARI TO FORGIVE HIM BUT NOT GOWON THAT HE CONSPIRED TO REMOVE AND EXILE ON JULT 29TH,1975.WE CAN SUPPORT MOHAMMED UMAR,NUHU RIBADU,SANUSI LAMIDO BUT NOT ANOTHER ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS BIGOT LIKE BUHARI,PLS.

  6. He needs to be interviewed on the genesis of Boko Haram. Thats the only problem I have with him, unless somebody will explain better to me.

    • I think Buhari should go back to cattle rearing which he used to do. I dont know how old some of you were in 1982. Buhari, who could not understand why Lagos should have an intergrated metro line in the 80’s linking most parts of Lagos thereby cancelling a contract which could have solved the traffic problem of Lagos and has to pay 40% of the total contract sum as fine for default is comming out to make noise or should i talk about his stewardship as PTF boss. 75% of all the project done by Buhari’s ptf was done in his geopolitical zone alone. He is an ethnic jingoist and a sadist

  7. I want Nigerians to think properly and if they do, they will find out that the problem of this country is not just leadership. Those governed are the problems we have. Nigerians! We are so used to Military dictatorship – “with immediate effect” , that we are paying lip service to democracy. I agree Gen Buhari, a fine officer but he will not be patient when it comes to issue of democracy, where the NASS can stop him taking certain decisions. As a soldier, he is used to dishing out orders that must be obeyed and he cannot stand being challenged. I have read where some members of CPC who won primaries were dropped because he did not like them, but went ahead and fielded those he liked. President Jonathan is not a soldier but he is trying to practice real democracy, which is government of the people. That is the reason why I strongly believe that the problem we have is not leadership but that of Nigerians. As Nigerians, we are not patriotic at all. We are given the opportunity to do things right but what do we have. Some Bank managers laundering money, some law enforcement officers not doing their job, some members of the judiciary are not honest, etc. How can a President succeed if Nigerians don’t cooperate. If we are honest people, we cannot tolerate a corrupt leader. In other words, if Gen Buhari becomes President today and Nigerians don’t cooperate, there is nothing he can do. He is still going to use same Military, Police, SSS and Judiciary. Is he going to import law enfacement officers from outside Nigeria. He said he governed six states and succeeded because he had competent civil service and that is the solution. Gen Buhari cannot be law officer , Judge, Minister all at once. If these people don’t cooperate with him, he cannot do anything meaningful. There is opportunity for Nigerians to practice democracy and all it requires is for us to he honest with our work, support our leaders and the benefit or dividend of democracy will show. Nobody has to put gun on our heads to get things done. A team may have the best coach in the world but if the players don’t cooperate with one another, do what each player has to do , the team will never win.

  8. Junior, you are right. @Bittertruth, speak for yourself, not Ndigbo. Hausa/Fulani hegemony have had their stint on the saddle; Yoruba’s have had theirs; the Creek boyz hijacked it and are still holding the belt/trophy. The batton MUST first go round. 2015 is for Ndigbo. Nigeria needs business minded people to run Nigeria for once. All the combined knowledge of the nothern Khaki boys – Gowon, Buhari, IBB, Adsusallami failed. Abdusallami hit it well on the head when he told AREWA to wait for the baton in 20yrs time. Good enough Buhari would be 90yrs then. No president or head of state of this contraption called Nigeria has ever had the cause of other Nigerians at heart beyond first his personal fat account, then his locality, followed by his acolytes across board and lastly tribe. Nigeria. Nigeria is last in their agenda and Buhari will not achieve anything for Ndigbo. He tells us that there was no evidence of missing N2.8bn (as at 1978). Has their been any evidence anywhere at anytime to nail any head of state in Nigeria? In IBB’s missing oil money, did the court find any evidence recently? And these are the people you still want as your leaders? People who know how to steal you dry and wipe all evidence with military precision. The British left three arms of power when they left – Military, Education and Commerce. North took the military, used it to force their way to the control room of Aso Rock. The military north failed Nigerians in all their years of dominance. The Yorubas, self-acclaimed educated Yorubas, simply fortified their fortress in their 8-year stint. The capital of Nigeria shifts to the LGA of the President. That is why Nigerians are still mourning for the sad tragedy of last week. Ndigbo it is your turn. Talk. Don’t fall prey to cheap political gimmicks, playing second fiddle. Buhari knows what is inside Aso Rock, that is why he wants it badly. But Nigerians know better now.

    • D lord’ B, i quite agree with u that the igbo should have a taste of the number one position but what u have failed to do is to mention the name of the igbo man ready and well prepared to take over the baton. If u are looking for another Jonah type that is full of promises with no corresponding action then u are mistaken. Nigerians are wiser now, u cant just bring in undeserve people and expected other nigerians to mumuly vote o..so go do ur own work and search o…it is not about talk talk, complain complain….look for the type of candidate in d current dispensation that will be cherised to vote, not the type of PDP abracadabra..its like 2015 might be slightly different from the rest elections..people may defend their votes o

  9. Buhari was a dignified Nigerian, I used was cos the question marks in him started when he join politics & politics of religion & region. Look @ the political parties feature 4 they are either regional or religious. ANPP was regional & CPC is religious.

  10. Well, truth is like a hidden pregnancy one may wish to cover it, hide it, denied it but when day i would become apparent so is the case 0f BUHARI. Tribal or religious sentiments would never save Nigeria but true fear of GOD is the only solution.

  11. Yes Buhari has been my icon ever since I grew up and seeing what is happening in Nigerian politics. He is a man of principle and disciplinarian. if Nigerian feels that laws are made for only the weak then Buhari would have change their thinking…Gods will lets Nigerian give a chance…But my advice to him is or rather the strategy I would like him to use is to find the source of Boko Haram like Malachy rightly said…find a way of stopping them cos i know he can do it…then I tell you ,you have conquered whoever will be coming to contest with u come 2015…May God grant you his wisdom and strength… may u live long…Buhari

  12. Omo Naija ronu o (Nigerians think twice) before you cast your vote for Buhari. Of couse to some extent I concured that Buhari was not corrupt but I beging to a rethink when the Issue of missing N2.8billion during tenure was brought to light which was exhaustively discussed and concluded. That amount was huge money then, if it’s wisely utilized, the thiefer will never be poor in six generations to come. Dont also forget that Buhari and Shagari are all from the North. Has anyone heard since the inception that Northerner ever found wanting for corruption by judicial enquiry set up by his successor. The answer is NO. It is only in the South West and South East that one can easily found answer that question because of their bookish mentality. Take for instance, what happened to enquiry set up to investigate millions of dollar of oil windfall that developed wings during Gen IBB’s regime. In a notchel, that alone has dent his (Buhari) incorrupt linen. Moreso, He (Buhari) is also economical with truth to have lied that he never participated in any coup. How would people dicey there lives to seize power from Shagari, the elected President and invited him who contributed noting to the coup to head the government they seized. Knowing fully well that the wages of coup plot is death. This is another white lie by Septuageniarian Buhari. Dont also forget that Gen Oladipupo Diya made same statement that he was invited into the coup against Gen Abacha which he described as ‘phantom coup’ by Gen Bamaiyi before a Court-Marshal headed by Gen Mukjapero. Buhari is Haram to nigeria problems. Let him end the Boko Haram he created in his region before thinking of returning to power.

    • Penmight: all u know how to do is to speculate and u are now the commander in chief of speculations. The man has told u, he did not plan a coup. So lets wait for a response from those alive that participated in the coup. IBB and Abacha were the coup plotters. What makes u think in the manner Shonekan was brought in and later kicked out was not in the same manner Buhari was brought in as a stop gap because of his competence, unknowingly used to stabilize the govt and then kicked out. IBB and Abacha later became head of state subsequently. On the 2.8 billion naira, which is equivalent of trillions of naira by today: He said there was no way such a money would disappear that CBN will not know about it. Based on the recent occurences with the oil subsidy scams, atleast the CBN knew about the money…..so if CBN said no missing of any 2.8 billion naira during the Shagari probe so why are u trying to reengineer the wheel.

  13. THIS IS ONE MAN THAT WILL CHANGE THIS MAD NATION NOW,THERE IS SERIOUS MADNESS IN NIGERIA TODAY,WE NEED AN ANGRY MAN LIKE HIM,HE IS NOT CORRUPT AND HE IS VERY HONEST,BY 2015 HE WILL BY GODS GRACE BE OUR PRESIDENT,THIS IS MY ONLY PRAYER YET TO COME PASS,BUT GOD HAVE ASSURED ME THAT BY 2015 IT WILL COME TO PASS,WE NEED A CHANGE FROM THE LOOTING AND STEALING NOW TO A MORE TRUTHFUL AND PURPOSEFUL GOVERNMENT,THIS I BELIEVE KNOW EVEN MOST NIGERIA IF NOT ALL KNOW HE CAN PROVIDE,NIGERIANS STOP AND THINK,WE IN THE SOUTHEAST POLITICAL ACTION GROUP OF NIGERIA [SEPAGON] ARE ALREADY WORKING TOWARDS THAT,IT IS AN ERROR THAT OUR TREASURER LOOTERS ARE BUSY WALKING ON OUR STREETS FREE WHEN THEY UP TO BE IN PRISONS COOLING OFF.

    • The truth about Buhari if he is not corrupt and incorruptible and he has the opportunity to rule Nigeria as our president he will fail wholefully. You know why? He’s type of person and his rigid style doesn’t work in a democratic setting. he probably cannot get the lower and upper houses to tow his line of thought, and he he cannot and may not see the need to compromise with others in matters not in tune with his. it seems he had not deem it fit to find common grounds with people from the South East and broaden his political horizon.
      May I quickly add that Nigeria need a revolution to sanitize our system and polity, and that mesiah is not in a septuagerian like Buhari.

  14. The sun reporter didnt do a thorough interview. Cos, he did not asked questions about arsenal boys that are bombing churches and shooting at beer parlours. Pls, go back and complete ur work.

  15. It is human to make mistakes. But we must also acknowledge same when the chips are down. If he continues to say that he has no regrets killing Nigerians with a retroactive law then he should forget about ever becoming a president of a people who are yearning for the recognition of their human rights.

    • Didn’t you read the reasons he offered? Check the world over the effect of drugs and the embarrassing conditions Nigerians are subjected to as a direct result of these peddlers. It was time for total clean-up.

  16. Buhari missed it by saying that 1966 coup was a tribal coup.
    he should go back and read how the coup was staged.what leads to it and those who participated on it.4 the fact that certain people wasn’t killed should not rubbish the noble idea that would have made Nigeria a better country today.this is a Man who will be president of fed Republic of Nija.as the present day politician are behaving now 2morrowsome few courageous Nigerians whether military,civilian,etc may rise to do some thing to salvage the country and people like him will term it tribal.
    Buhari’s own coup was it tribal,national or self.awaiting 4
    his answer.

    • Favor: all Buhari was saying was based on the perception of that time based on those that were killed and the type of question he was being asked. The question being asked is not about what he now think about the 1966 coup but the question is about the perception of the 1966 coup as at the time it happened when he was in the military. You dont wait until a book is published for perception to be formed. It may be wrong or right perception. The purpose of publishing a book is to correct some of the wrong notion. His answer was based on the question, he was asked.

  17. How wonderful it would be for our country if our past leaders would make it a point of duty to write a book about their lives, experiences, and challenges. Buhari, in this one interview, has changed a lot of wrong perception about him. Personally, I learned a lot about some history of Nigeria and the Military that no one has ever written about.

    This also brings to mind the importance of education. We must all work hard to ensure our children are given excellent opportunity to attain solid education.

  18. Thank you Gen. Buhari and happy birthday at 70.
    Having listened to your comments and answers one can say that you did your best for this country.
    But at 70 years of old i strongly think that you need to have your rest in politics and become a consultant to other younger politicians. Just like the way IBB resigned from politics. When you resign you reserve respect for yourself.
    By my own view i strongly believe that Nigeria is above your capability now at 70. You should be thinking of managing your health, family etc, and NOT to sacrifice your whole for your do or die electoral victory.
    Gen. Buhari you need rest, hence this country can survive without you. So just rest, ok, good of you.
    For this country to be in hand of another retired military man means we are going back to practice another military dictatorship. This democracy where constitutions are respected and obeyed, and NOT military where you will come and start applying decrees.
    Gen. Buhari Nigerians know that you are better but it’s time for you to have your rest.
    Gen. Buhari cann’t you support the present administration under the able leadership of President Goodluck E. Jonathan with those your good ideas? And if you do will heaven fall?
    I think it is ripe time for Nigerians to come- up openly and say enough is enough to all retired Generals.
    Let us all give that support we have for those Generals to the Mr. President, then he will do more.
    And to condemn he hitherto.
    I love you all and happy peaceful Nigeria.

    • Considering the resources and the level of achievement, you will know that this government has put Nigeria in reverse gear at full speed waiting to crash. Looking at Buhari, he is more active and vibrant than the younger and corrupt president who spends over 120 million Naira every other week hiring helicopters through NAPIMS. Keep your advice to yourself or rephrase to suit the happenstances of the day.

  19. Stop condemning the president.
    He is fighting, working hard everyday to bring this country to better position where our children even those yet unborn will enjoy.
    Buhari should be thinking of putting to an end the boko haram in the northern which has almost grounded economic activities there.
    Gen. Buhari help your people over there.

  20. Every Nigerian agrees dat corruption is our greatest enemy in dis country. It gave birth to bad leadership,poverty,idleness,robbering,kidnaping,Boko Haraming etc.and we all also agreed dat if it is not stopped completely we will not gewt to d promise land. D question is dat 4 d past 13yrs havew we had any serios goverment wit d political will to stop it? I also agree dat GEJ was a good man but He got there and joined dem dis is so claer in his attitude towords His committees of enquiries. Many committees, many reports, many endictments but NO body was or seems get punished in d end. We neede a Nigerian who will be Bold to tell dem(d Cabal) “NO I will not join u guys) and face d masses of dis great country about sinking. Somebody who has d gots to stand against thr opinions,somebody who will put dis corruption behind us. And above all somebody who who has d fear of God. God help us come 2015

  21. Godfrey Izah Ukpor on

    How can a man clamouring to b a president of Nigeria refuse to forgive his fellow country man. U forgive IBB bcos of religion & regional identity. Buhari should learn to live biased & sentimental concept.

  22. Pick the points;
    1.all the emirs are intrested in military.
    2.military cadet training is omnipresent in every fulani locality encouraging and enrolling fulani youths,got it?
    3.Fulanis herdsmen are now niger/deltans.expect plateau drama soon,ndigbo take note of herdsmen attempting to settle.
    4.he participated neither in coup or embezzelment of funds,but he did rule nigeria and billion of more valuable nigerian naira of then did disappear without trace.
    Now the lessons for ndigbo;
    1.ndigbo learn to take military as part of future career of ur beloved children.pay bribes with ur hard earned money to enrole them if u had to,even though it’s a risky career in which he can lose his life.aim for infantry and field officer that can fight cos it’s their that things happen.stop seeing commerce as only way of living,even traders and their families and apprientices are dying in hostile condition.if we ndigbo want peace and recognition,we must first be capable of predisposing a great number of warriors.
    ndigbo must fund by themselfs
    the building of officer cadets colledges all over igboland cos nigerian state won’t do it for us.
    Every body must encourage each other to enrole their igbo child into military if we ever want to one day get off this political mess.
    Cos our hope of dealing with igbo dirty,cheapish,corrupt and immorale politicians of this day might repose upon them.
    2.all the igwes and ezes and ndinze in igboland must start being interested in military wholistically parlant.
    3.If we need peace,we must first be war capable.thnx.
    Wanna comment,sms to +22501669091

    • There is absolutely no sense in this your comment. I will advice you to think properly before you pen your opinion on any issue. We should all be interested in moving this country forward and stopping thinking along ethnic and religious lines. Ndigbo are progressive people and should not be parochial about their choice for leadership.

    • You have to realize that the Igbos are not serious about Nigerian Presidency. All that motivates those of them at Abuja is money. Which serving Igbo governor, senator or house of representative member is talking about Igbo presidency? You only hear them make noise if they loose elections or serve out their terms just to stay relevant or looking for federal appointments.

      • Nduka Felix mobolaji uzuh on

        @Due, what do you mean, by saying igbos are not ready, or serious about attaining the no 1 position of this country?

  23. We need leaders like Buhari, who will call a thief a thief and not a Chief as we have it today, unfortunately, tribal and religious sentiments have robbed him of that position. May the Almighty God reward him with the benefit of seeing his type of Leadership while still alive.

  24. Hummm, all I can say is that the cake is half baked , we need more clarifications, Eg, if a drug pusher can be killed because he was killing innocent youths and turning them to unexpected madness etc, My question is why should his excellence president Buhari accept offer from coup plotters knowing fully well that they must has killed a lot of innocent souls, number one, and number toppling a legitimate elected government in place .
    Finally we need to hear more about the security situation in Nigeria and his plans come 2012 general election I rest my case for now

    • Aguihe, to some extent i agree with u. The purpose of law is to protect the society. The SMC signed agreement in a military era is the law. Buhari govt, killed two drug pushers to prevent the society. Now Criminal takes this drugs to go extremely high to face the police in serious gun battle: have u now asked urself how many innocent nigerians have been killed by this drug and by the criminals that take it before going out to rob innocent nigerians as compared to the 2 killed. Buhari may be right by saying he did not regret their action when u now see the effect of the consequences of the drug in our society

  25. ONE:WHY WAS EKWUEME DETAINED AT KIRIKIRI AND SHAGARI PLACED UNDER HOUSE ARREST?TWO:WHY WERE OWO AND OGEDENGBE KILLED WITH RETROACTIVE DECREES?THREE:WHY HAS BUHARI CONDEMNED THE KILLING OF CORPERS IN THE NORTH?FOUR:WHY CAN’T BUHARI SUPPORT JONATHAN TO MỌVE NIGERIA FORWARD?I NEED ANSWERS,NOT RHETORICS!

  26. This Buhari’s interview is cock and bull story from a man who is high of petrol fumes,what about the 53 suit case of printed Money smuggled in from Saudi Arabia that his ADC came and cleared from airport when Atiku Abubakar as a customs officer refused to allow into Nigeria,why was Shagari put under house arrest and Ekwueme sent to Kirikiri? who were those peddling drugs and who were those executed? I am sad that he did not tell us those insubordinate soldiers that plotted to overthrow a legimately elected civilian government and for what reason? what about his records at PTF? as far as eyes could see,what did PTF do in the southern parts of Nigeria? Buhari,I hate you with the blood in me and if I lay my hands on you,God knows that even the 1 mechanized division will not be able to remove you from my grip.You and your disloyal comrades truncated Nigeria’s progress,I know what Sam Mbakwe was set to achieve,same with Lateef Jakande,why did you cancel contract for Lagos light rails? Buhari like I said,pray that I never lay my hands on you,cattle rearer !!!

    • ROMMEL, YOU ARE SPOTS ON AND MORE CONTRADICTIONS ABOUT THIS FULANI ISLAMIC HEGEMONIST NEED BE EXPOSED FOR THE GULLIBLE NIGERIANS TO KNOW THE REAL BUHARI. HE CAN NEVER FORGIVE OBASANJO BUT HAS FORGIVEN HIS FELLOW MOSLEM IBB AND HOPES MOSLEM SHAGARI HAS FORGIVEN HIM. OBVIOUSLY, HIS MOSLEM RELIGION TEACHES HIM TO FORGIVE FELLOW MOSLEMS BUT NOT CHRISTIANS.BEING SMART BY HALF WILL NOT ABSOLVE HIM FROM ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN THE COUNTER COUP OF JULY 1966,ACQUIESCENCE TO THE WAVES OF POGROMS OF 1966 AND TRUNCATION OF SHAGARI’S SECOND REPUBLIC FOR EVER CONTEMPLATING HANDING OVER TO EKWUEME IN 1987. WHY MUST HE BE PRESIDENT IF HE KNOWS ANYTHING LIKE EQUITY?WHY CAN HE NOT CHAMPION FOR A NIGERIAN PRESIDENT OF IGBO EXTRACTION?MUST WE BE BEHOLDEN TO THE FULANI?I MUST SAY THAT HIS VAUNTED DISCIPLINE AND UPRIGHTNESS REGARDING THE PUBLIC PURSE IS GOOD BUT THE INGRAINED IDEA OF FULANI ISLAMIC HEGEMONY IS AS MUCH A FORM OF CORRUPTION AS MATERIAL ONE. HE MUST RETIRE TO WRITE HIS MEMOIRE AND LEAVE THE STAGE FOR EDUCATED AND COSMOPOLITAN MODERATES WHO WILL IMPLEMENT ROTATIONAL PRESIDENCY AND GOVERNMENT OF CONSOSCIATION.

  27. Colnwako…U have a point but I think that is more reason we need Buhari…cos Nigerians are ungovernable, we are difficult ppl to lead…Buhari have not had enough chance to really prove him. I am an Igbo man and I know we don’t like ourself too…we are more selfish than any set in this country…look what happen during the 1993 crises of Abiola and Babangida…some of us from the north that manage to get find it difficult to survive at home cos those at home increase their product, it becomes difficult to get anything. I want ibo president but we should change our attitude towards one another.

  28. Colnwako…U have a point but I think that is more reason y we need Buhari…cos Nigerians are ungovernable, we are difficult ppl to lead…Buhari have not had enough chance to really prove him. I am an Igbo man and I know we don’t like ourself too…we are more selfish than any set in this country…look what happen during the 1993 crises of Abiola and Babangida…some of us from the north that manage to get find it difficult to survive at home cos those at home increase their product, it becomes difficult to get anything. I want ibo president but we should change our attitude towards one another.

  29. i want to ask bittertruth this…for buhari to come out from his near grave to rule Nigerians again…are we going down or are we going up…please mr bittertruth answer me this

  30. chukwubuike orji on

    The buhari of today is diffrent to the buhari of yesterday, if giving the opportunity to rule again, he will do worster than ibb and obj.

  31. Ferguson Mkpoikana on

    Really the interest of ur people NIGERIAN is in ur heart. Just as before I hope u can still do the same come 2015 to free this country from those selfish politicians

  32. @Francis nwosu, you have said it well, Buhari is discplined but the issue of tribalism and religious fanatism has robbed him of greater respect. A good leader must respect other people’s views no matter how few the voices may be. Secondly, he has the mindset of conquest and we are no longer in the 18th century. Thirdly, he can’t stomoach the procedures in democratic set-up.

  33. Buhari is my man forever! I voted for you in the last election and will do so again.
    I know that half of what people say about you are lies.
    With Buhari corruption will be drastically reduce. Remove corruption and Nigeria will change.
    The day we remove tribalism, religion and gender in Nigerian politics things will change.
    Any drug peddler living or dead is an animal and does not deserve pity from me as a person.We should reintroduce capital punishment for these animals who debase womanhood and man’s dignity just for money. Given the the chance I would do the same.
    How many Nigerian do we have who still smuggle drugs to countries where they are beheaded?
    Think of it, there are many countries in the world today where capital punishment is used against drug offenders. Is it Buhari that made them do it that way.

  34. If u’re forty something yrs old today, then u would have known that if IBB had not overthrew Bhuari Idiagbon govt, Nigeria would have achieved lots of progress. It was during his time we all know how to do things de way things should be done.nigerians then were discplined but as soon as de gaped toothed man came in , he just sold all those achievement of Buhari n Ididagbon. Look where we are today n compare it with where !uhari n Idiagbon could have taken us. Remember this same Buhari refused to devalue our currency , n de useless Ibb destroyed “naira”. If Buhari n Idiagbon had not been over thrown ,our country would have be de envy of de world. All de evils that Ibb encouraged will never have happened eg,419, armed robbery, drug trafficking prostitution n most importantly what ‘s killing us today”corruption”. It was during Ibb that all these came into existence in Nigeria. Lastly, happy birthday to u Gen.Buhari n long live to u. “Igba odun, odun kan ni fun e Gen Buhari” ( two hundred yrs is one yr to u /en Buhari). Good luck to u.

  35. Sai Buhari! If Nigerians do not want you to rule, too bad. All I know is that if you had won the last election,Nigeria will not be in this mess.
    It is only a selfless man like you the will redirect this country. However, like some said give more talks so that people will understand you more. Talk more on those issues which people use to calumniate you.
    Even if they fail to understand you,history when it will be written by those after us, truth will come out.
    As for Igbo presidency, I reserve my comments, but let the governors of the south east prove to me that an Igbo man can rule Nigeria well. As I said before in my previous post, let us not dwell on sentiments, let us use our heads not our hearts.

  36. Ejimkonye okechukwu on

    Buhari must compensate the families of all those youth corpers killed in bauchi last year when the result of presidential election was announced.and apologised to their parents,if not their blood wlll be crying against his ambition to be the next president.

  37. I forgot to wish my idol a happy birthday. Happy birthday to Mohammadu Buhari! 70 hearty cheers to you! Hip hip hip …hurray! Oga diri gi mma o! Osondi owendi!

  38. I have said it before in several social media and to my staff that Buhari is what Nigeria needs to wipe out corruption in Nigeria. I’m sure he will go back as far as investigating past leaders for corruption. My biggest problem with him is that he is too sectional.

    • Let the investigators run TIME SERIES on capital investments in Nigeria for twenty years from 1970 with three or five years moving average and you will notice when it reached its Asymptote – 1978. Then you will quickly arrest Buhari and OBJ to explain why Nigeria suffered the first major capital flight in 1978 that led to the subsequent plumetting of Naira and forced the first republic of Shehu Shagari to introduce Austerity measure. Ask Buhari if Nigeria has recovered from the economically senseless investment on 3200KM pipeline to supply Kaduna refinery with crude oil from Niger Delta. This is the same brain you are calling to adminster Nigeria. The right economic thing Buhari as Petroluem minister should have done was not to hijack Refinery from the Niger Delta to Kaduna his homeland North, but to have decreed for effective transport system that would ease distribution of the refined product. The reason for the subsidy of locally refined product were because of this stupid investment, where cost ot production remained quite above the “reasonable” selling price. Buhari has told Nigerians he is the architect of almost all our economic woes. Nigerian economy rests on this one thing – Crude and Refined Petroluem products. He took the attention of north away from Groundnut and its pyramids to oil. Therefore the politics of who stays in Aso Rock to control the oli. Isn’t it nonsensical that you would take crude to Kaduna at high cost, refine, and transport back to other major parts of the country? Why did he do it? Today imported petroluem products are far cheaper than refining in Nigeria, at least as they tell us. Yet these products come tens of thousands of miles through efficient tranport system. This man does not have sound economic judgment. He could be a fine military man. He learnt all the military tactics, not economic or political administration of an economy. He lacks sound economic judgment. OBJ and Buhari stole Nigeria clean in 1978 and wiped the records with military precision before handing over empty treasury to the Civilian Government. Go to FOS and pick up capital investments and do your informed studies. Good enough now is computer age. The result won’t take you five minutes to obtain. Every part of the interview churns my stomach. The more you read again and again, to see why people answered, the more you see lots of ignorance. Buhari is highly economical with many truth. He is not the kind of economic brain Nigeria needs. All about governance is not jailing drug pushers. It is managing the scarce resources without ethnically based investment decision.

  39. I concurred with others that General Buhari is the best candidate for Nigeria and Nigerians. Even, I pray for a situation where he will be invited again to rule the country like 1983. I can tell you, if Buhari becomes president/head of the state, corrupt leaders will run away such as Babangida, Atiku, Obasanjo, and others. I am YORUBA MAN but i strongly Believe that Buhari can transform and develop the country and bail us out of this mess.

  40. @Ngozi and co,all of u thinkin dat buhaha man is best thing nigerian’s got as leader are getting it bad.buhari represents unitary system introduced to incapacitate $outheast period.

  41. I neva knew nigerians could com 2geda irrespective of ethnic & religious sentiments 2 agree on a just course. We need buhari’s disciplin, courage & commitment 2 move dis country forward. Nigerian youths hav a very bleak future bcoz of bad leadership bt i believ we can still change d tide

      • @Ngozi.THIS PLATFORM IS NOT WHERE U DISPLAY UR AUGUST MEETING MENTALITY.IGBOS WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A MAN WHO SEES THEM AS rats.I’M OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW THOSE WHO MEAN WELL FOR ME AND MY CHILDREN.

        • are you saying GEJ meant well for you and your children when his New Year felicitation to Nigerians was increasing the pump price of petroleum products?What about GEJ telling the victims of the christmas day bombing and other bombing victims, by implication that they should get use to it? Does that statement from a leader bode well for you and your children or spell doom for all of you?

  42. If Nigerians want sanity restored in our polity then Buhari is the man that should be elected in 2015. The North should present him as their concensus candidate otherwise no hope for the North in 2015.

  43. yes ooh buhari. u are telling the truth. all u said are not questionable. but tell us, is your hand in boko people? tell us the truth as usual. thank u

  44. buhari is the only person that can rule this country called nigeria. the present leaders that we have now knows that,because they are thieves and criminal minded people, they never wanted any good man to come and stop the loot and embezzelment they are enjoying now. nigerians should pls vote in buhari so as all this nonsense should stop. buhari is my man any day any time.

  45. Any right thinking southeasterner should never wish that any northern general that participated in biafra war be in power.my God,it shows decadence of our political awareness.this guy participated actively or passively in 3million bloodshed.a gruesome massacre of igbos and other former easterner.He’s among the guys (following orders).killing with passionate hatred.with all his hyped discipline,what is his achievement in east.I want all the stupid’igbo free mind,detribalised’champions to answer it.detribalised comments my foot.

    • Say the Truth thanks for having time for our stupied Ibo brthers and Sisters who does not have time to read their country’s history before engaging on stupied good man and detribalise talk.This is the problem- the fools always think they are wise.Take time to read,think and reason before talking or writing so what you say will stand taste of time.

  46. In my opinion Buhari remains one of the greatest Nigerians alive. In spite of the political capital he lost by mismanaging his loss in the last elections, many Nigerians still believe he means well for all of us. Unfortunately, his last outing ended up making him look like a tribalist and jihadist. Nonetheless, even with his old age I will still vote for him again, although he can hardly gain a national acceptance in an election, because of his initial blunders in failing to address the Boko Haram matter early enough. However, I sincerely do not think he supports terrorists. It is also my candid opinion that the General misconstrued the massive support he received here in the North, for a National acceptance, and this made him to morn his loss illogically. Some how his managers seemed to concentrate their campains here, trusting on miraculous electoral formular. Indeed, in the north, we were still feeling shortchanged by the PDP magic , and needed a rallying point at that time. Also, his ascetic/warrior mien was quite attractive to those who were violence inclined . In a way, he was a victim of the circumstances without really knowing it. Yet , any day , any time , I will always root for Buhari, even if he remains the President we never had.This man simply wants to be part of the re -engineering of Nigeria from the top. Most certainly, the Almighty Allah (SWT) has not willed it.

    • Ibrahim Idi, CPC was formed barely 2 months to the 2011 election and even with the rigging power of PDP, i will still commend Buhari for the achievement of CPC in 2011. PDP can only be defeated when u can ensure they have no breathing space to rig. If the merger works, then PDP can significantly be tamed to minimise their rigging capability. ACN resources will pull strength against PDP in SW, CPC in the north and ANPP in the East. If PDP can be defitted, it is good for our democracy..

      • Indeed! The power equation actually needs to be balanced. Even with the modest achievements of the opposition in the last elections,PDP was rattled .

  47. Godfrey....USA on

    whether we like it or not Nigeria needs a strong leader like Gen. Buhari. The insecurity in the country will be a thing of the past with the no nonses of the General.

    • @ GODFREY USA WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT THE INSECURITY OF BOKO HARAM ARE ARTIFICIAL MADNESS USE BY THE SAME BUHARI NORTHEAST TO DISCREDIT GEJ GOVT.
      NOTE THAT NIGERIANS ARE NOT KNOWN TO BE SUICIDE BOMBERS.
      BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE RICHER THAN NIGERIAN STATE CAN FINANCE SUICIDE BOMBING TO DISCREDIT SEATED GOVT.

  48. Even if Buhari become the president of Nigeria today, he will not be able to perform because the rogues in the national assembly will frustrate every move made by him.
    The country is dying fast and until the masses rise up and chase out the corrupt politicians, nothing good will come to this country again.

  49. Their will never be a revolution in nigeria,ijaw people will never rise against GEJ.if the attempt to revolution starts from north ,east or west it will be seen by south southerner as political lynching by rival ethnic group.if the president is from the north,fulani people will all die to save their man no matter how corrupt or rothen he is.same with southeast and southwest.this is what started the couter coup july 1966 and subsequent civil war.this is why there have never been a revolution in nigeria no matter how rothen our politician are.
    U still dreaming of youth revolution in nigeria just like the arab spring,no way.by the way from which ethnic group will the person to take power in the revolution coming from?
    Have u got the answer?
    ‘NIGERIANS WILL ROTH IN THIS SYSTEM FOREVER AND EVER IF IT DOES NOT ADOPT CONFEDERATION OR TOTALLY DIVIDED INTO THREE SOVEREIGN NATIONS’I bet on it.
    So mr @jay,there will never be revolution in naija.u dreamin?

    • This is point-blank truth! The roth in Nigeria is the counter coup-de tat; nothing anyone with a sane and sincere interest can do in this country to sanitize it will not fail. The polity and the whole Nigerians need to support any good leader with good intention to save this country, but who will be the leader?
      I totally agree with you; Confederation is the answer!

  50. Why did Rtd Gen Buhari suspended National Open University that was scheduled by fmr President Shagari to commence in 1984? NOUN was suspended and never take off till Obasanjo became civilian President and started it. The journalist did not do his home work.

  51. Thank you,The Sun, for spoiling my weekend by bringing this sadist, nepotic,religious fanatics, bloody boko haram agent to your readers.

  52. nomatter how pp talk against bahari,he still remains d best to be nig president wether fanatic,moslem,sadist or whatever name they give him, he still remain fit and proper to rule this country called nigeria.he has a gud record and other pp like muritara,idiagbon,umaro musa yaradua,other ones like ibb,obasanjo,atiku,abdusalami,gudluk jonathan and others are bloody thiefs,corrupt and materilistic simple take it or leave it,dat is truth.

    • BEST PRESIDENT BY YR REASONING ABILITY
      WHERE WAS HE WHEN THE AUGUST 25 1985 PALACE COUP WAS PLANNED
      IS COUP DE TAT NOT A SECURITY AND A SIGN OF INSTABILITY.
      HAVE U FORGOTTEN THAT THAT COUP ENDED WITH JUNE 12 1993 CRISIS
      METAMORPHOSE INTO A GOGGLED EYE GENERAL ABACHA AND HIS INDIAN APPLE CONCUBINES
      AND BABA OTA FARMER / THIRD TERM GAMBIT
      AND LIFE =SUPPPORT YAR’ DUA
      AND UNDEFINED GEJ, HEAVILY POLITICALLY BOMBARDED.
      NIGERIA CONTINUES TO CRIPPLE
      SO THE CAUSE CAN NOT BE THE SOLUTION

  53. Reading through one can sense some dignity in character. But Nigeria is not moving at the pace it should. It.s only prudent to sincerly identify the problems facing our nation…though deep in ethnic cards and the politicians been clever to bank on some citizens ignorance. Earlier the politicians start serious thinking on how to move Nigeria foreward,the better for all,. .them inclusive. many many years of greed and incompetence has stagnated our peoples lives and our beloved nation of birth is about to be on its neels. UNBELIEVABLE.

  54. I was a civil servant in the Ministry of Aviation when General Buhari became the Head of State. The duo of Buhari and Idiagbon had a vision of taking Nigeria to a very great heights through their policies of disciplined behavior, abhorence of antisocial attitudes, sincere and sustained attack on corruption by civil and public servants. As civil servants then, bribery and corruption were dirty words and the practice of these evils were done in secret and dark corners of the society. Can anybody compare this to Babangida’s regime that enthroned corruption and stealing of public fund to high heavens. Even the traficking in drugs was so much tolerated by Babangida that Nigeria became a major transit point in the movement of cocain and other hard drugs from Latin America to Europe and Asia. Nigerians must know that the foundation for the corruption that has and is still ravaging Nigeria was layed by Babangida. I am still convinced that if Buhari is given another opportunity to rule Nigeria again, he will put the Country on the path of sanity and redemption. He has done it before and I dont see anything in him to suggest that he will not do it again. As a detribalized Nigerian, I will vote for Buhari any day and any time.

    Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria. Long live the Black Race.

  55. This interview helped to understand the leadership qualities of the man Buhari. His responses to all the questions about his remarkable achievements were to first recognise by mentioning those that worked with him that made such beautiful achievement possible. Whether u like it or not, this is the strong quality of a good leader anywhere in the world. He did not arrogate those successes to himself but the team and technocrats around him and also sees it as preveledge to have those type of professionals around him. Secondly, Buhari has shown clearly that if he sworn to ensure the law of the land is obey, he will fight with all the might in him that all obey the law and there is no sence of pity to those that disobey the law of the land whether the rich or the poor. This is what make countries like America, Britain, Germany great today. All our thieving leaders when in these countries obeyed their laws to the letter but when in naija breaks the law with inpunity. Thirdly, this man was a former governor, former minister of Petroleum, former head of state, former PETROLEUM TRUST FUND Chairman and has no petrol station in his name and any of his family member, has no house in abuja then he has zero telerance for corruption: he will not steal or will not allow you to steal. Automatically, prices of good and services would come down when there is no free money to spend. Because this man hates going against the agreed principles or the law of the land or what is constitutional agreed then u will say he has an unforgiveable spirit. A man that will ensure things are done the right way is being projected as our enemy and we all stupidly buy the stupidity. If i have a southern candidate with two third of these qualities, i will not vote for Buhari but if not, and Buhari presented himself as a candidate i will vote for him. We becloud ourselves with religion and tribal sentiments. Unfortunately our so called religion and tribal brothers have milked us dried and slapped our faces severally with our stolen money. When the Chadian soldiers killed nigerian soldiers at the border in early 1980s, Buhari carried out an unrepented battle to the Chad, killed and pushed them far away from the nigerian soil. What is more pathrotic not to allow tiny Chad intimidate big nigeria just in the manner Cameroon humiliated us with the Bakasi. People want Buhari to help solve Bokoharam problem while we have forgotten that some are smiling to the bank, making serious money at the detriment of the dead with the huge budget money voted for the fight. Those milking billion of naira through Bharam crisis will not want the crisis to stop. God help and bless Nigeria.

    • Usabram I personally like your presentation here. This is core politics. remember that The Sun placed it on political column and has allowed the debate to go on. What you should realize is that no single head of state or president of this nation could claim to be the best candidate in the land at any time. Nigerian politics is still ethnocentric and so driven. The octupus PDP had to entrench zoning in their cadidature, not to fish out the best Nigerian, but to give the participating zones the equality status. No one could say that OBJ was the best Nigerian for the office in 1999. but he was the best Yoruba for 1999. First it was agreed by the cabals of North and West that the office MUST shift to the Yorubas, then the fishing for the best acceptable was secondary. You and I may talk all our talks here, but the players are playing behind the scenes. Nevertheless, public opinions have ways of swaying policy formulators rightly. That is why the debate is interesting. ETHNOCENTRISM will cease to be the driving force of the politics of this land ONLY when all the participating zones, as we have them now have tasted and fumbled with the ONLY IMPORTANT OFFICE IN THE LAND – THE PRESIDENT. Why is David Mark the Senate president? He is from the Middle Belt. Not so? Ndigbo fumbled with theirs in their time producing Okadigbo, Evan(s), Anyim, name them – all because of personal greed, incompetence and mostly, lack of understanding of the game of politics, the Nigerian style. Quite right Nigeria does not need such kind of epileptic leadership, but the rotatation was maintained. The North snatched back the lower house’s office, because that was the only highest office that fell into that zone, not because the S/W does not have more competent Reps. Didn’t you hear the North crying out against marginalization? So, the issue about Nigerian politics is not YET the best Nigerian FIRST, but which ethnic group’s turn or zone? It is all about, first having a sense of belonging at the Federal level. NDIGBO MUST BE GIVEN SENSE OF BELONGING. We cannot get to the time of the S/E zone and we begin to talk about the best Nigerian. All Nigerians should be harping on the best Igbo for all Nigerians. If OBJ could be taken from prison as the best Yoruba because the Yorubas must be assuaged, then POLITICS, the Nigerian style and equity, demands that S/E geoplotical zone should have the mantle. It could somebody serving in one of the international agencies. It could be a technocrat. He could be an academician or a core business man. Morsi of Italy, a technocrat, was picked up at a time of deep crisis against the core politicians to manage Italy out of the woods. He did wonders that Italians are worried that he wants to step down. It is for Ndigbo as you rightly said to present THEIR BEST. But the fact remains, we cannot COME TO THE TURN OF S/E zone for the highest office and Nigerians claim that there is no Igbo better than Buhari. The only thing is that Buhari has more stashed fund with which to do whatever he could. And from where came the money? His military entitlements? Your guess is as good as mine. Ndigbo, this is the time to do the right work, not as the EMU was issuing rejoinders from Washington, when NADECO fought locally on the turf, even with the treasonable Radio Kudirat. That is politics the Nigerian style. Ndigbo wake up.

      • D Lord’ B: I understand u 100% but one thing that is clear is that POWER is strategically taken, it is not on a platter of gold. PDP understands this, that is why so much power is given to their serving President & governors so that the states and federal institutions are used to perpetuate their candidates in Power. But unfortunately, they did not manage their strategy well hence looting, corruption and lack of trust are the order and seems Nigerians are also tire and impatient with them any longer. By 2015, it will be 16yrs of PDP wasteful rule. With so much resources and dollars spent with almost nothing to show as evidence of spent. PDP zoning is a game but not an agreement by the nigeria nation. It is looking as if PDP is gradually going down as there are no strong cohesion and unity among them like before. Unfortunately NDIGBO should know better that with POWER (first citizen), NDIGBO cannot BE GIVEN automatic SENSE OF BELONGING by the other ethnic groups in the manner of ur intent. Ndigbo must first give selves, sence of belonging and ready as a tribe to be trusted to take over leadership on behalf of the nation. When the eastern leaders openly doggedly go after Jonah and keep praising Jonah when at faults, then this is not a good strategy. How do u get the trust of the other tribes. No one like what Bharam is doing but all notable leaders from the core north u catigate as Bharam and dont want to hear anything with islam then how do u get the support to be No 1 citizen…Jonah is manipulating the Igbos for his own race and all dancing konkoma around him. If not for ACN, did u think Jonah would have won 2011 election? The same Tinubu has gone to mend fences with Buhari and working towards merging with ANPP…Strategy for the future for the yoruba progressive!!!!!! all ACN governors are muslims outside Adams but in their various states they celebrated xmas with the xtian..strategy!!! Are we even sure that if the igbos are asked to provide a competent son for no1 citizen, there wouldnt be war among themselves: shooting, killing, kidnapping, assination before the son emerged…Ndigbo should pls go and strategise for the future….either in PDP or the progressive…luck has ended with Jonah inwhich OBJ intentionally ochestrated…work and strategy is the answer! I dont see Jonah ochestrating anything for the igbos as OBJ did for him…

        • “Power is strategically taken”: You are absolutely right Usabram. It is heartening that we could come to such level of understanding. Reading through all your lines, one could see one who believes that truly Ndigbo deserves the shot at the no 1 office, but it can’t be on a platter of gold/ But then let me ask you: Do you think the General Buhari agrees with you that Ndigbo deserves to enter Aso Rock>? Do you think that Tinubu believes that Ndigbo deserves to saddle the seat of government at Aso Rock? Do you think that Nigeria trusts Ndigbo at all. It is true that Ndigbo fight against themselves. But the reality is that both North and West inclusive, especially people like OBJ believe that Ndigbo are defeated tribe in the Nigerian equation. Don’t forget that Dr Okwesilieze spoke out that the North should complete their term begun by Yar’dua and GEJ schemed him out, using majorly Igbo caucus of the PDP. But did it make any person from the North to risk his neck to speak for him? He (an Igbo) believed that the constitution of the party should be upheld. Was that not right? All Nigerians abandoned him and GEJ hiacked the saddle. Why did the entire polity succumb? Because any person who manages to enter that control becomes the Lord of Manor.. Why did even Arewa surrender to the Creek man? Was it not because the Creek boys made governance difficult for Nigeria under Yar’dua? Why did Nigeria hand over the mantle to the Yorubas? Was it not because the likes of Professor Soyinka used all their wit to make the military junta of the North become international pariah. The sectional West dominated media made June 12 a near national day. The question is since it is evident to all Nigerians that Ndigbo should have the shot at the Presidency, shouldn’t Buhari and Tinubu support their cause? Granted it is democracy, but Nigerian project is still being defined. That is why the call for sovereign national conference, even with the constitution amendment going on, still resonating. It was not PDP that zoned Nigeria but the Constituent Assembly. Why was Nigeria zoned? Is not for equity definition? Why is the lot of the S/E different from all others? How many LGA’s do Kano and Kaduna have? How many LGA’s do all the S/E states combined have? How many states are their in other zones? Why is the lot of S/E different? Does Buhari believe that an Igbo can be President over him? You know he would prefer to join his anscestors or call down fire and brimstone in the North if that happens. Let’s be frank. There is entrenched clandestine manoueveing that perpetually go on against Ndigbo. Gowon knows it. OBJ is the worst. IBB could be a little sympathetic to the cause of Ndigbo, though an acclaimed Maradona. These people are power players any day, any time in Nigeria whether we like it or not. they are kingmakers at all times. They have our unaccounted and uncountable collective fund stolen from the common purse at their disposal to do anything they want and buy votes. Even in the United States, money matters in politicking, though theirs is defined along party lines and policies. But in Nigeria, it is not first the party but the tribe first; then the money power to execute it. You know that if it were possible for the North to have struck by arms they would have done so to take back power. The reason for all these ethnocentric interests are because each successive ruler only concentrated atttention on their zones. The Creek boys took up arms when they realized that the oil money was used to develope Abuja, Kaduna, Kano, Niger. I did my Youth Service in Niger far back in 1990. I saw how Minna was linked up with Suleja. The drainage system in Minna alone was mind wobbling. I served in the seat of government then. All the local road networks were done by Julius Berger. I travelled to Abuja from Minna I wondered if my East was part of Nigeria. My brother, I do not know from where you come from Dee Sam Mbakwe, was he also a corrupt governor if the present crops of governors are? Why was he called the weeping governor under Shehu Shagari. Because he was in NPP? My brother just manage and travel down to East and see neglects. Why has not GEJ moved to fix Enugu PH express way. OBJ abandoned it. Yar’dua had no time to be assessed. Why play politics with the masses. If the governor is incompetent, the common man knows that that is a Federal Road. Why? Why? Why? These are all calculated marginalizatoon policies. Nigeria sought to redress injustice by first givng the Yorubas the opportunity to govern the nation. Nigeria jumped all other zones to grant the Creek boys the opportunity to saddle the ship just to assuage them and let peace reign. Must Ndigbo lead inserruction for Nigeria to take them seriously. Think about it. If Ndigbo should decide to take risk and stop commercial activities in Nigeria in civil protest for a week. don’t you think that the United Nation’s attention would be attracted. Is that what Nigeria wants Ndigbo to do to know they are serious? So, Nigeria wants Ndigbo to declare Biafra again before she wakes up. The status quo cannot remain. The war was fought on Igbo soil. But what we should realize is that the generation that fought the war are gone or are going. It is a new generation that are suffering the injustices of the war. This is the kind of generation that can take to arms becasue they did not taste the war themselves. Let Nigeria not think that Ndigbo of present are afraid of war. No! I can tell you that an average Igbo of 40years and below do not believe in the Nigerian project any more. It is a dangerous situation. I wish you and I were the major players. then I know that I have one who can reason and understand, but not the kind of person as General Buhari. I know he is your man and I like him as a fine military man, but ask him if he believes an Igbo could be his President? Honestly, North believes he is their best acceptable figure. but the truth is that Ndigbo are wiser today. There will definitely be reallignement. At least 28 mushroom parties have been deregistered. OBJ allowed multiple parties to weaken the opposition. Ndigbo fell prey producing more mushroom presidential candidates without constituencies. That I assure has changed.

          • D Lord’s B, u have said a lot and in some u demonstrated ur anger. Honestly an igbo will be president of Nigeria one day and soon….but to be honest it is in the hands of the igbos and God to make it reality..igbos must do their own part before God’s takeover..one thing that i know Buhari support is to remove state of origin from our declaration and replaces it with the birth place and that u have a lot of stake anywhere u pay your tax…but honestly temper down ur hanger on this matter so that u can see a workable strategy…why? dont be deceived when it is the issue of Power, u need other tribes o. An igbo guy just said, he will kill any igbo man that will vote for Buhari..statement like this is unethical and make the igbo dream difficult to achieve..if people believe u are what u are not and ur attitute is to help others think so..i no good o…so pls celebrate with the muslims, support their cause openly where it is ethical, say things that is good about the northerners and south west, let them see u are accomodative…can the igbo man gives out land the way the yorubas and other tribes did?.. unfortunately it is easier to get land in the west and unfortunately in the north than the east…so psychologically what does this translate to in the psyche of the other tribes…strategy is the answer..there is no strategy right now if u know of any pls tell me….igbos should also support one another….

  56. General Buhari is the Nigerian last chance. Happy Birthday, The General of the General. By the Grace of GOD you will eventually be THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA COME 2015

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  58. Mohammed Abdullahi Dabo on

    Our major problem in this country is that we giv everything religious colouration.It took Buhari time to forgive IBB and election is the current thing and something he stil has interest.Forgivn or not for me is not an issue.Let God Almigthy give us a president from any corner who can move this country forward.We have what it take to develop.

  59. Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Bonaf
    December 23, 2012 at 7:46 am

    PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR MEMBERS OF BOKO HARAM WHILE THEY ARE REALLY NEAR US. THESE SO CALLED YARADUA GROUP ARE MEMBERS OF BOKO HARAM. FROM THEIR FRUITS WE SHALL KNOW THEM.. SEE HOW SELFISH THE NORTH IS. THIS REGION RULED FOR FORTY YEARS, THE WEST FOR TEN YEAR, S/S FOR ONLY 2. THE EAST , THE FACILITATOR OF NIGERIA’S INDEPENDENCE NOT EVEN A YEAR AS THE PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA. THE EAST IS OVER DUE TO PRODUCE THE NEXT PRESIDENTWHEN OURN MAN HAS FINISHED. THE NORTH IS AT IT AGAIN.THIS ATTITUDE AND SELFISHNESS WILL SURELY BREAK THIS STUPID SET UP CALLED NIGERIA.I URGE MY PEOPLE IN THE S/S TO SUPPORT THE S/E IF OUR MAN GEJ DECIDES NOT TO CONTEST IN 2015. WE HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO DETECT THE TONE. THE EAST HAS IT TOO. JUST IN CASE, LET THE EAST GET READY FOR ANYTHING WHATSOEVER. I MEAN ANYTHING- WAR OR PEACE. THIS TIME AROUND, WE SHAL NOT LET THEM DOWN. OUR LEADR , OUR GREAT LEAD (CLARK) PLEASE TAKE NOTE.

  60. Did you hear this man say Fulanis are in Delta. Deltans beware, in 5yrs time, they will start destroying your crops, in 20 yrs time they will start contesting governorship. Stop this virus now before they stop you.

  61. Buhari my foot. He will not get 0.5 percent vote in the east. As for south south may be Tam David west family only will vote him.

    He is not sincere when it comes to religion and hegemonic tendencies will make him unsalable to other tribe outside Hausa/fulani.

    Yorubas will deceive him and dump him again. He can go and try his luck. Neither him nor anyone he endorses will gain wide acceptance in nigeria.

  62. The Bokoharam man called Buhari.A good man will never tell his followers to kill.A good man will never say elections will be bloody if he is not voted into power.A good man will never say he will never forgive or forget.A good man will never be so sectional.Check his CPC party and you will think that it is participating in elections that is for Hausa people alone.It is never national in its outlook.Check out the list of such great men like Mandela,Ghandi, etc.They are different from the sadist called Buhari.

    • Awojobi Olakunle on

      You are misinformed about CPC a lot of Southerners are there, the party even won 2 seats in the last local government election in Lagos State.

  63. ONE THING I KNOW ABOUT ISLAM IS THAT IT DOES NOT ENCOURAGE IT’S ADHERENTS TO FORGIVE. YES, THERE IS NO PLACE FOR FORGIVENESS IN ISLAM. It is therefore surprising to me that Buhari forgave IBB though he would not forget. The big question is, why did Buhari not forgive OBJ in the same vein? Or does Islam say that a muslim can forgive a fellow muslim but never an infidel?

    • Awojobi Olakunle on

      Very clear Late General Azazi said Jonathan and PDP are the Boko Haram even Asari Dokubo said Buhari has nothing to do with Boko Haram

  64. Buhari said that he did not participate in the coup that brought him to power, but at the later part of the interview he made a silly mistake to acknowledge he participated. Read his comment:
    ” For example, when we overthrew the Second Republic, we had what we called the SIP, the Special Investigation Panel that comprised the police, the National Security Organisation (NSO) then and the intelligence community of the military. We did nothing by impulse or ad hoc. We went through the system ”
    BUHARI said that he has forgiven IBB because he is a Muslim, But he cant forgive Obasanjo probably because Obasanjo is a Christian. Read his comment below

    ” Obasanjo; he mobilized Nigerian voters against me.
    But you have forgiven him?
    No, I haven’t forgiven him (laughter).
    This same Buhari slept with all his children. A situation when he tried to have canal knowledge with his last daughter and she refused, She told her money and her mother replied that you should listen to whatever your father requested for peace to reign. A MUSLIM ANIMAL.

  65. Buhari said that he did not participate in the coup that brought him to power, but at the later part of the interview he made a silly mistake to acknowledge he participated. Read his comment:
    ” For example, when we overthrew the Second Republic, we had what we called the SIP, the Special Investigation Panel that comprised the police, the National Security Organization (NSO) then and the intelligence community of the military. We did nothing by impulse or ad hoc. We went through the system ”
    BUHARI said that he has forgiven IBB because he is a Muslim, But he cant forgive Obasanjo probably because Obasanjo is a Christian. Read his comment below

    ” Obasanjo; he mobilized Nigerian voters against me.
    But you have forgiven him?
    No, I haven’t forgiven him (laughter).
    This same Buhari slept with all his children. A situation when he tried to have canal knowledge with his last daughter and she refused, She told her mother and her mother replied that you should listen to whatever your f

  66. Buhari said that he did not participate in the coup that brought him to power, but at the later part of the interview he made a silly mistake to acknowledge he participated. Read his comment:
    ” For example, when we overthrew the Second Republic, we had what we called the SIP, the Special Investigation Panel that comprised the police, the National Security Organisation (NSO) then and the intelligence community of the military. We did nothing by impulse or ad hoc. We went through the system ”
    BUHARI said that he has forgiven IBB because he is a Muslim, But he cant forgive Obasanjo probably because Obasanjo is a Christian. Read his comment below

    ” Obasanjo; he mobilized Nigerian voters against me.
    But you have forgiven him?
    No, I haven’t forgiven him (laughter).
    This same Buhari slept with all his children. A situation when he tried to have canal knowledge with his last daughter and she refused, She told her mother and her mother replied that you should listen to whatever your father requested for peace to reign. A MUSLIM ANIMAL.

    • Awojobi Olakunle on

      Your comments show that you are not only an animal but a big fool.General Buhari integrity was openly acknowledged by Obasanjo.

  67. I wonder where ur education is. Please can anyone tell me where in dis interview Buhari said He cannot forgive Obj?. U can forgive but d memory of one somebody did to u will remain 4 life. Wit clear sentiment like these I wonder where we are going as acountry. We allow ppl to present or give candidates to us without taking our time to really study d antisident of these politicians, thr history and life style as well as thr manifestos befor we deside on who to give our votes to. Some selfish and satanic religios leaders will come. And present us wit candidates dat will only serve dem at d espense of d masses and with all our educational claims we blindly agree wit dem and inturn surfer 4 it imensly. God pls come to our rescue

  68. Gen. Buhari has his failings, just like any other human being. But one thing that nobody can contest is the fact that the man has country’s interest at heart.

    In as much as I didn’t agree with two of his policies of

    (i) killing those drug pushers RETROACTIVELY

    And

    (ii) decree 2

    I do honestly believe that Nigeria needs someone like him to clean out the total mess we are currently in.

    In this regards, he can count on my vote come 2015.

  69. Ngozi, killing drug pushers was not the issue . The problem was that the law, then was applied RETROACTIVELY by Buhari. In simple terms , as at the time those two guys committed the crime, that law has not be made. As a matter of fact, i can still recall Bath Ogedemgbe – one of the drug pushers, saying that if the penalty was a capital punishment as at the time he was going into the crime, he would not have dabbled into it. That was Buhari’s sin no 1. The 2nd one was decree 2.

    • Patriot: If you know how law works, u will not say this..if u have deposited some money at high interest rate in the bank. The day the interest nose dive u for go the previous rate and the new rate kicks inrespective of any sign document with the bank . If a degree or constitution is sign into law, it is unfortunate that those still under trier will be based on the new law. If Impunity clause is removed from our constitution today, any governor can be picked for fraud committed before the new constitution as no impunity clause again. Those that brought Buhari after a successful coup knew where they were going…to help stabilize the govt for IBB and Abacha to be in charge. Both IBB and Abacha planned and executed the coup. When they were ready to kick out Buhari, they mobilize to support creation of these laws and later manipulated the public against Buhari so as to action their personal agenda..that is why we are where we are today….

  70. Dr. Ezekiel Akande on

    I am thankful to God for the opportunity to make this comment, I had a very rare encounter with Gen. Buhari in Kaduna, the long and short of it was that, if there ever is a detribalised Nigerian, General Buhari is the person. He was the one without any particular connection to him who facilitated the process of my getting a visa to the US.
    I have been in the US now since 1992(twenty years), I have been practicing medicine in the US at the highest level since then. I am a Yoruba man and a christian. I walked up to Gen. Buhari’s dawaki road residence in Kaduna, in July 1992, at this point I was living at a residence in dawaki rd, owned by the Dr Olu Alabi who was the owner of Alba clinic Kaduna where I worked,
    By happenstance the General’s son and cousin came for medical attention at the clinic , and in an ecounter that barely lasted 40 mins, I became acquanted with the son and thought nothing about it at the time. Before living the clinic the son told me who he was and that should I need any help I should let him know. Again I did not think anything of it and was not very impressed when Nigerians talk like that. After series of events and many months later , my appeal to the consulate for reconsideration of my visa issue was rejected, a friend of mine that I had share my unusual encounter with continued to nag me about visiting the son of the general Buhari, and that was how I came face to face to the General at his Kaduna home.

    After a lot of plesantries , the General asked me two questions, do you have all the papers they ask for , what really are your intentions for going to the US. To study sir ; i lied( My intentions were multiply, I would study alright but will stay back for the American dream, having graduated 6 years prior with nothing to show for it. I wasn’t about to stay a day further in a country that I didn’t even know at the time will sink further into darkness.)
    To cut the long story short, and with the help of another great Nigerian(Late General Hassan Katsina, who lived in Rock road off Dawaki Kaduna) the consulate sent emissary to call me at home! for my Visa in August 13 1992). The general could barely pronounce my name, I come from very humble backgrounds, as a matter of fact my parents were peasants , and I am a christian which is obvious from my name, and being Yoruba too, still you would think I was his blood relations the way he received me and helped me. I met my fellow tribes man Chief Obasanjo in his Ota farm while visiting a friend who worked for him as an accountant at the time in 1986, he would not acknowledge my greetings, do you think I could go near his house to ask him for help if I could not lay claim to some solid relationship to him. So when people talk about Buhari being a religious jingoist or a tribalistic person, I wonder if they know who they are talking about.

    If the General runs again, and if the ACN and CCP join hands and make him the presidential candidate, I will move to Nigeria completely and finaly and throw all my resources behind his campaign, I thought this will happen the last time he ran but unfortunately talks between CCP and ACN broke down.
    Long live the General Long live Nigeria

  71. I will kill any south easthener who even try to vote for this idiot called buhari. igobs must produce the next president of Nigeria or Nigeria will devide. In the event of any noutherner emerging as the president, We will make Nigeria more ungovernable and horrible to live in.

  72. I will kill any south easthener who even try to vote for this idiot called buhari. igobs must produce the next president of Nigeria or Nigeria will devide. In the event of any noutherner emerging as the president, We will make Nigeria more ungovernable and horrible to live in. the north can make buhari their president when the country brake

    • Look at Swedbase talking and tomorrow he is talking about an igbo president that will be as lucky as Jonathan. Ur true identity is coming out..killing any igbo man that cast vote for Buhari…mumu pld go ahead to crry out ur threat..this is why it is difficult for other tribes to trust an igbo president..u are all unpredictable..Do u think the south south is on ur side?..once Jonah’s tenure is over u will suddenly realise u are alone..

  73. Uzoh from lagos on

    BUHARI CANNOT BECOME PRESIDENT AGAIN IN NIGERIA ,HE WAS IN THE PAST AND THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH FOR HIM.HE HASN’T ACTED AS A STATESMAN OVER THE YEARS AND HIS UTTERANCES ARE NOT HELPING HIS POLITICAL AMBITION.HE THINKS HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT KNOW HOW TO BE RIGID,POLITICS ABHORS RIGID RELIGIOUS BELIEVES IN A SECULAR NATION LIKE NIGERIA.BUHARI LIKE ISLAM AND HE IS ENTITLED TO THAT POSITION BUT LARGE AND EDUCATED CHRISTIANS CAN NO LONGER TRUST HIM WITH POWER IN NIGERIA.WHEN HE BECAME MILITARY DICTATOR HE TOOK NIGERIA INTO OBSERVATORY STATUS IN ORGANISATION OF ISLAMIC CONFERENCE,PERHAPS AS CIVILIAN PRESIDENT HE MAY MAKE NIGERIA A SHARIA STATE,WHO KNOWS? HE MAY BE DISCIPLINED MOST SOLDIERS ARE AND HE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.HE LACKS SUFFICIENT EDUCATION FOR TODAY’S NIGERIAN CHALLENGES,HE IS TOO OLD AND VERY CONTROVERSIAL EVEN AMONGST NIGERIAN ELITES.WE WILL NOT RUN AWAY FROM NIGERIA BECAUSE OF BUHARI AND HIS HIGH HANDEDNESS.ASK BUHARI WHY HE HATES THE PEOPLE FROM THE EAST AND HIS PARTY DOES NOT EXIST THERE,RELIGION AND CIVIL WAR HANG-OVER.

  74. ohikhuare omogbai on

    i really enjoyed every bit of the interview with the much revered General. we need leaders like him to run this country at this time where corruption and indiscipline have become a force majeure. Jonathan and his camp should get ready to go to jail when he eventually assumes office by 2015. they have converted public property into private property e.g the usage of navy helicopter to transport those nitwits to a burial ceremony. that’s the height of incompetence and unprofessionalism.

  75. Buari has said. His political ambition is to represent and t agitate for his immediate constituency, not for Nigeria. Who and where is Buari’s immediate constituency? This reporter should have asked him.

  76. Let me fix some wrong here cos most ppl say and believe in wrong assumptions cos it’s popular conotations.
    1.Buhari is not the answer to nigeria problems.
    2.Nigerian masses present character is not the cos of our problem.
    3.Nigerian is not totally about our leaders.
    So,what’s our problem and from where is it coming from?
    Our problem is complex but i’ll give u clue about it’s origin.
    1.profound wish of one ethnic group to dominate others is our problem.
    2.hausa/fulani,yoruba and igbo character is ruining Nigeria.
    So i’ll treat the two together.Northerner believe that they are dominating others in this system is paramount to our problem.yorubas is playing hot and cold system in that game.igbos republicanism have not help the situation.so our actual problem is base on structure of governance.
    So where is the solution to this problem?in a total southern union to counter the north and force through a genuine constitutional review or soveriegne national conference.thnx

  77. Mujica, mandela, buhari, idiagbo,achebe… are just some among the list of personalities i respect a lot but a buhari without an idiagbo will be a disaster because leadership is not all about integrity. My advice to buhari is to avoid being messed up by not contesting again since the chief problem of this nation is wrong foundation and injustice. The best you can give to us from the side is how to right these wrongs because once we get it correct, every other thing will fall into place. Don’t ever think of jumping into the mud because you surely will be messed up and remember that this is democracy. Cheers at 70.

  78. Since igbos dominate private sector as yorubas do to public sector and civil service,hausa/fulanis now see politic as their own domain to dominate.that’s why they’re resisting every reform.

  79. @patriot,u are trying to hold brief 4 ogedemgbe,that he is unaware trafficking in cocaine attracts capital punishment. If i may ask,why is it that some nigerians are still taking hard drugs like cocaine to countries like malasia & indonesia where drug related offences attracts “death penalty? Everytimes,we keep on complaining about nigeria problems,but we are unable to identify d solution b/c,we allowed our sentiments to becloud us. From any angle u look at it,our problems is corruption among govt officials. A case in point is d recent discoveries of massive corruption in pension by taskforce led by Maina running to #3.3trilion and unfortunately, d senate are not giving him necessary support. Tony anineh was accused of mismanaging 360 billion naira when he was a minister of works and nothing happen to him,fmr president obj claimed he invested $16 billion dolars in power and nothing to show,faruk and otedola drama of corruption clearly portrays how we celebrate corruption in nigeria. The point,am making here is that,d current crop of politicians can best be described as “old wine in a new bottle”. Thus,who will sanitised nig.4rm corruption? The man that can do the job is Gen.Buhari. Think twice!!

  80. They know not who is the man called Buhari.For sure they did not know him!!!! Had it been that they have a little minutes with the general they would rally round him begging him to lead them.

  81. Isinetugo Vincent on

    2015 is nt far frm now. Fellow Nigerians, our destiny is in our hands, can we be wiser wt our votes this time around…
    Nigeria o ni gdaje!

  82. Only a fool will not appreciate the General, all he said is plain and open, and he advised doubters to go on and check the achieves for confirmation. This is a man of integrity who want the best for this country, No matter his age 100 or 200 yrs old I will still vote for him. For you the igbos is there anything worth praising of the clown you rigged for in the last election?

  83. Buhari is well ahead of other past rulers like him. He is not drunk about senseless wealth acquisition. He may not be a saint though. But the other issue is whether he can out wit the rest adventurers who will be in the other various levels of governance; National Assembly, governors, ministers, etc.

    But the other possible thing is that even as corrupt as our rulers are, there are still some elements who when they get the leader of Buhari’s stature will be pushed to do good.

    Giving Buhari a chance wont be a bad idea. The notion that he is old does not carry any wait. What has a young Doctor done. It is not about age, it is about determination and will. These qualities are not age dependent. It is a spiritual thing.

  84. Awojobi Olakunle on

    I don’t know any other Nigerian of Buhari experience who is better prepared and has the integrity to rule this nation come 2015 unless Nigerians preferred to continue to surfer in mist of plenty.

  85. “Say the truth” you hit the nail on the head…especially i was shocked when i hear him say that the Fulanis are becoming part of Delta…are you kidding me? and yet the Igbos are not part of Sabon Gari Kano.
    I love this inteview and i hope Sun Newspaper should interview more of those northern players and I hope the southerners are taking notes.

  86. I have always hated buhari until i read this interview. I think he is not as bad a man as i used to think. is just that he is high temperd. and when angry he dont control his utrances. i also understand that becos he is a disciplinarian, he can be very brutal in his application of discipline without caring about the consequences.

    I think he deserves a fairer judgement than we have given him. there is no military head that is not brutal, i think its as a result of their training.
    But BUBU dont contest again, so that ur ego and dignity wount be wounded again. i think am begining to like you a bit.

  87. My people of Nigerian’s let us stop listening any talk from so called General Muhammadu Buhari; just look at his terrorist statements; He said that I have forgiven IBB but i ‘ve never forgiven Obasanjo; If you look into General Muhammadu Buhari comments means both him and IBB where Boko Haram terrorist members. No hiding place for wicked people like IBB and Buhari,they are Boko Haram terrorist members we Nigerian’s know. woowoowooowooo to IBB and Buhari, make una go die.

    • All we are praying for are candidates that will not steal from the treasury and will not allow anyone to steal…and the money should be judiciously spent..if we can have candidates with the fear of God then we are on the right part..not these criminals and bunch of thieving leaders that have looted us dried…over a trillion was stolen on fuel subsidy, several billions looted in various scams..a trillion can help reduce our burden if well spent…

  88. Buhari can never smell the seat of president of Nigeria until he die. He should better go and relax. I was once a lover of Buhari but since he introduced Boko Haram Against Jonathan’s government, that is where he missed. He has forgiven IBB and could not forgive Obasanjo, you can see that he has no brain. Buhari go and rest for nigeria is now wise. As for the merger, Tinubu should be very careful with these foolish Northerners because they are deceivers.
    Buhari gove apology to Nigerians first for the introduction of Boko Haram, if not, God in heavens will never forgive you. God has shown you an example by taking your daughter, next will be you. Fool

    • Uross, u said it is Buhari that introduced Bokoharam. Even President Jonah knows u are a lier! Two PDP senators are being associated with BH with one being prosecuted in the court for proven evidence of association. They gave the phone number of antorney general to BH to intimidate him. Jonah also confirmed that some members of his cabinet are Bharams. When Late Azazi also confirmed so, he was booted out. Since u dont have the brain to understand this..pls i only want a proof from u that Buhari is the founder…Azazi said so as no1 security officer: may be u are more informed than the President and Late Azazi….

  89. taiwo oladipupo on

    its of no use in writting a long words over buharis interview. all i know is a man of integrity and any time he decide to contest as a president, i pesonally will vote for him even at his age, because in reallity we should compare his achievement to those peoples that rules before and after him, i think he is excellent.

  90. IT IS INTERESTING THAT OUR GENERALI IS NOT ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE GOWON COUP THAT SLAUGHTERED AND INFACT ALMOST DECIMATED THE IGBOS IN THE ARMY.HE WAS SMART ENOUGH TO TO TELL US THAT FIRST COUP HAD TRIBAL SLANT.AND WHEN HE TOOK OVER IT WAS CONVENIENT TO CONDEMN THE VICE PRESIDENT—AN IGBO MAN TO KIRIKIRI WHILE THE PRESIDENT –A HAUSA/FULANI WAS KEPT UNDER HOUSE ARREST IN IKOYI.HE IS A NIGERIAN AND SO HE IS FREE TO PLAY THE POLITICS OF NIGERIA BUTHE CANNOT BE ELECTED PRESIDENT IN NIGERIA.HE IS A MAJOR TRIBALIST …….

  91. Nigerian politics of corruption have gone to the level that it has successfully damaged some part of our brains.Our brain’s capacity to judge have been tampered upon.If not how can we see an ex-junta chief under whose control a whoofing 2billion plus of a very high value naira of those days disappeared without trace as discipline and unbiased.
    I think everybody who is calling for this man to be president again need his brain checked,joke apart

  92. I am one of your admirers not for anything but the way you wrote your name in gold in the history of Nigeria, I must add that I also have my respect for the late Gen. Tunde Idiagbon. The two of you came into power with good purpose; apart from the late Murtala and possible combined with Obasanjo’s military regime there had since been no government with a purpose. I need to add that up till this moment Nigerians are praying for the Lord’s intervention. Now I want to ask you to forgive everyone that might have offended you. It is then you can receive the Lord’s forgiveness.

  93. I concured wit Alex on his opinion dat Buhari mai be gud but his time has relapsd.At 70 a decent man shud giv room 4 de younger genratns 2 shwcase dia worth.We hav men who hav distnguishd demslvs in de art of governce.People lik gov.Akpabio of akwaibom state,Fashola of lagos,Rochas of imo state,de erstwhil gov.of gombe alh.Goje.Des ar great achievers who hav writen dia names in sands time. My case nigerian decision makers is dat recyclin govmental wit desame old & atarvastic brains who hav bn der since indpendnce in 60s.Just of recent dat desame Anenih hs bn apointd npa boss a man of ova 80 yrs.de oda time it was Bamanga Tukur of 77 yrs was made pdp nat.chair,by implcatn wil turn 80 by 2015.Tel me wer he’ll garner de strnght 2 stand de rigors of campaign.u see de dwindlin we ar faced wit.

  94. I commend all you Buhari trumpeters like my friend Usabram. You are really wonderful. Unfortunately, many of us here do not understand what goes on in Nigerian politics. Buhari’s intent is not as you suppose; because he knows that GEJ will only hand over power to himself in 2015 or to an Igbo if he finds Ndigbo is serious! Don’t just think GEJ is a moron! The first most important person as far as 2015 is concerned is GEJ, as long as he is the President and Commander in Chief.

    Honestly this forum has almost seemed to make Buhari a force (on paper) that he really is not. But it is to his great credit. Statistically, his trumpeters really entered enmasse to make him seem to be a force. That could secure him adequate compensation come 2015. Didn’t the senate compensate all the former military heads of state before IBB calmly withdrew for GEJ in 2011. There is no text book yet for Nigerian politics, except (1) LOUD NOISE MAKING and (2) ETHNOCENTRICSM.

    Unfortunately NDIGBO are still ignorant of politics the Nigerian style. When an Igbo man gets ten million naira he thinks he has the world when a VP could get as much as 16billion naira as vote for a VP’s residence. 10% of 16 billion is N1.6bn. Cool money. He said his hand isn’t in it, but his GSM approved it shey? Just as Buhari’s hand and legs did not touch N2.8bn when naira was stronger than dollar.

    When an Igbo man becomes a minister he/she thinks he/she has reached the heavens. When small men enter the House of Reps or get political appointments and could boast of one SUV or two, he returns to the East, buys Chieftaincy title from one traditional ruler with one cow and N50,000 and begins to harass the ordinary man. Yet at the national level they are the most imbeciles you can think about. Therefore, Nigerians judge all Ndigbo as these useless representatives.

    The truth however remains that only a president of Igbo extraction will seek for peace in all facets of Nigeria because ONLY Ndigbo make all the nooks and crainies of Nigeria their first home. Therefore, ONLY a president of Igbo extraction will seek for true national integration because ONLY Ndigbo have more investments in other parts of Nigeria than all the other 249 nationalities put together. ONLY president of Igbo extraction will fix all the Federal Roads, because ONLY Ndigbo take their commercial activities beyond their own enclave. ONLY a president of Igbo extraction will redefine Nigeria.

    All of you here should reason for once. All the Khaki boys – Gowon, Buhari, IBB, Abacha, Abdusallami failed Nigerians. What else will Buhari do? Revenge mission? Was the much touted PTF balanced in his execution of projects. Who audited PTF that Buhari was the sole manager? Where did he get all the money he has to float and fund a politcal party? From his military pesion? Was it not only sign posts that PTF erected in Eastern lands? Why did Abacha appoint Buhari as PTF Chairman? Was it not for ETHNOCIENTRIC reasons? Why did IBB scheme out Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe? Is Buhari more straight forward than this son of Ndigbo. See, how much Ndigbo were treated by all the ethnic groups yet they believe in Nigeria – Awolowo-led betrayal and policy of starvation; Rivers or S/S abandoned property; North committed progrom against Ndigbo. Yet Ndgibo still make all these places tick. Nigeria is a deaf country. She will wake up the day Ndigbo speaks one thing and takes one common action. Unfortunately, we have many who do not understand what goes on in Nigeria. Why do you think Nigeria didn’t want Ndigbo to go? Because it can’t do without Ndigbo. If Nigeria can do without Ndigbo, then let Nigeria let Ndigbo to go peacefully with Biafara. Honestly, Ndigbo won’t even need the Niger Delta Oil to survive. At most we import it like China. But sure, they will depend upon our technology. Technology rules the world. Nigeria needs Ndigbo more than Ndigbo needs Nigeria. It’s just unfortunate that Ndigbo do not know themselves. That is why a high profile son of the soil could be bought with peanut instead of saying no and crying out foul. The good book says, a man that is in honour and (1) understandeth not and (2) abideth not, is like a beast that perisheth.

    Unfortunately again, many of us here are just analysts and commentators, not the players like Buhari. Buhari knows what is inside that kitchen called Aso Rock. That is why he wants it very badly first for himself; then his beloved North – amy one you can then fall in line afterwards. NDIGBO WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!

    • D lord’s B..i have told u that Buhari is not an option for me when i see a credible southern candidate. Unlike u, i will not intentionally kill the good in a man’s character especially if that good is what we need in any of our tribal leaders to move this nation forward. My believe is that if we need the northern votes then why castigate them….not until when God divides nigeria, they are still one of us…because as we speak we are nigerians inrespective of our diversity….But if the southerners are still doing magomago, looking for luck, count me out. Until i see the candidates for 2015, i am still open..but pls desist from deformation of character because it has a way of boomerang….

  95. Gen Buhari’s response to the question of jailing the cocaine pushers is the most instructive to me in this interview: ‘They will never see the daylight again to commit crime against humanity’. Too bad, not enough of them had been caught before he was overthrown. Sir, we have the privilege of knowing your side of the story at the ripe age of 70 years and I personally believe you. I would give my eye-tooth to know the other side of the story as told by the other party(ies). In the meantime, we wait for their submissions, particularly those that will contradict yours. For me, I would love to know the real reasons why ‘they changed their minds’. Happy birthday, General.

  96. Run TIME SERIES on capital investments in Nigeria for twenty years from 1970 with three or five years moving averages and you will notice when it reached its Asymptote – 1978. Then you will quickly arrest Buhari and OBJ to explain why Nigeria suffered the first major capital flight in 1978 that led to the subsequent plumetting of Naira and forced the second republic of Shehu Shagari to introduce Austerity measure. Ask Buhari if Nigeria has recovered from the economically senseless investment on 3200KM pipeline to supply Kaduna refinery with crude oil from Niger Delta. This is the same brain you are calling to adminster Nigeria. The right economic thing Buhari as Petroluem minister should have done was not to hijack Refinery from the Niger Delta to Kaduna his homeland North, but to have decreed for effective transport system that would ease distribution of the refined product. The reason for the subsidy of locally refined product were because of this stupid investment, where cost ot production remained quite above the “reasonable” selling price. Buhari has told Nigerians he is the architect of almost all our economic woes. Nigerian economy rests on this one thing – Crude and Refined Petroluem products. He took the attention of north away from Groundnut and its pyramids to oil. Therefore the politics of who stays in Aso Rock to control the oli. Isn’t it nonsensical that you would take crude to Kaduna at high cost, refine, and transport back to other major parts of the country? Why did he do it? Today imported petroluem products are far cheaper than refining in Nigeria, at least as they tell us. Yet these products come tens of thousands of miles through efficient tranport system. This man does not have sound economic judgment. He could be a fine military man. He learnt all the military tactics, not economic or political administration of an economy. He lacks sound economic judgment. OBJ and Buhari stole Nigeria clean in 1978 and wiped the records with military precision before handing over empty treasury to the Civilian Government. Go to FOS and pick up capital investments and do your informed studies. Good enough now is computer age. The result won’t take you five minutes to obtain. Every part of the interview churns my stomach. The more you read again and again, to see why people answered, the more you see lots of ignorance. Buhari is highly economical with many truth. He is not the kind of economic brain Nigeria needs. All about governance is not sunnarily executing drug pushers. It is managing the scarce resources without making ethnically based investment decision.

    • D Lord’s B, i have once advice u that the energy u spend in writing episode to intentional and hatredly deformed character, pls used same energy and zeal to search for a credible Ndigbo candidate that will be acceptable to most nigerians in 2015. I am willing to vote and mobilize for such candidate. You talk about the build of pipeline to supply crude during Buhari govt as economically senceless..but he promised and did it without inflating the cost..unfortunately other renown nations used pipelines to transport crude to eliminate the use of trucks, rail and ships in moving large crude vessel..for them its economically viable…..see the number of trucks carrying refined crude products on the road all across the nation and see if it makes sence as u have proposed: imagine if nigeria will not be a better place for road transportation if there is option to take 90% of the total trucks out of the roads. If subsequent govt cant manage the pipelines and other infrastructure across the nation..why blaming it on Buhari. In 1978, there was no computerized networking that aid capital flight, all transaction on behalf of govt went through CBN, so how would equivalent of today’s1 trillion naira disappeared that CBN will not know. Remember this was the period when professionals were indeed Prefessionals and the CBN governor was a south south. Both the CBN governor and Buhari are not known to be stinkenly rich after they had left office unlike IBB. All i want from u is to mention any ministers, DGs, governors, Defence, commissioners etc that stole under Buhari’s regime..mention just one..his regime had zero tolerance for indiscipline and corruption..he will not steal and will not allow u to steal…if u tried steal u are on ur own..no favoritism..Not withstanding, for the sake of fairness me want to vote and support the igbo president so stop wasting ur time writing what we will not help the cause..just go search for the credible candidate,,finito

      • Believe you me, I am a core Igbo, and a core Nigerian. I don’t believe in the break up on Nigeria because it is not to any ones adavantage. But like I said, and repeat again and again, the bane of Nigeria is ETHNOCENTRISM. it was the motivating factor for Buhari’s decision to cite the refinery in Kaduna. That wisdom is the problem of Nigeria today. I diliently researched on Nigeria’s transporrtation from the colonial times. We were a couple of young economists who did some research and amazingly discovered the beginning of Nigeiria’s downturn. We could belong to a different school of economic thought. We have the Classicals, the Keynseniains, the Neo Classicals and all sorts. Each model could be of benefit to the economy. Watch the American plolitics and you see it based on sound judgment. The Republicans believe in protecting the Wealthy Americans while the Democrats believe in bigger government. The decision of Buhari in 1978 to spend hard resources for 3200km pipeline was purely political and still the problem today. Do you think it is any easy task to build a refinery? Remember the pipepline was for Crude, not finished product. If the refinerry was close to the raw material source and the pipleine for the finished product, as you have depot in Aba llinked by a pipeline, it would be a different thing. simple economics tells you that to maximize profit you minimize cost. It is like take the Steel rolling mill and locate in Bayelsa State and begin building railroad to transport iron ore from Ajaokutak to Nembe. That is senseless. It was a politically motivated decision whchi could not have been if any other person from another part of the Nigeria had been in his position. this is the bane of Nigeria’s econoomy – ETHNOCENTRISM. Can you understand me? All the neglests in the South East are as a result. That is why every geopolitical zone “beleives” that the region could get a little of the cake in their turn. I am not a policitican, nor a politician’s son, but we cry for justice. Nigerian politics is money driven. You must have the money fo venture into it. Otherwise you stay on the sideline. Hence we are ruled and governmed by the most decrepict leaders. Ask yourself the question, where did Buhari get all the money for all his political pursuits. I said I do not know the part of Nigeria you come from. So, you may not understand what marginalization is and what really goes on at the command centre. That is why many call for the break up of the country whihc I am not an advocate nor supporter. Let’s be honest to ourselves.

  97. NATIONAL PROGRESSIVE
    MOVEMENT OF
    NIGERIA

    STOP CAPITAL FLIGHT TO STOP BOKO HARAM AND OTHER MENACE – INCONSISTENT POWER SUPPLY AND MASSIVE UNEMPLOYMENT etc.

    We have identified corruption in Nigeria as a hydra-headed monster which is bedevelling Nigeria and which has permeated every stratum of the Nigerian society and is, for now, insurmountable. Even the EFCC and ICPC are not immune. They share part of the booty with the alleged public and private servants.
    Even the worst cases are religious leaders who scramble for the booty from the political leaders. Since corruption cannot be stopped, capital flight of the proceeds of corruption must be halted.
    Nigerian banks should be allowed to receive deposits of money from individual and corporate bodies without limit. Such monies should be utilized to fund and run the economy. Economic strangulation is the bane of the country, and the quagmire of the people. It is the reason why women sell their bodies and men commit heinous crimes to stay afloat. All the trillions of Naira being siphoned out of Nigeria should be within the coffers of Nigeria to be used for human and business development.

    Capital flight leads to brain drain and human capital deterioration. If the Nigerian economy is funded, then the brain drain will automatically peter out. Lack of wherewithal is a great dilemma for able-bodied men in Nigeria. A frustrated and hungry man is a devil’s workshop. When the common man is pushed to the wall, he becomes enraged and turns to crime. And his target is the political, economic, religious and social leader who has siphoned the petro-dollars and Naira abroad and abandoned him to his poverty-ridden state. Hence boko haram, political and social discontent and similar expressions.

    By not addressing the real issues, the Nigerian leaders have failed the country, and have been employing the wrong measures to treat the wrong diseases. The money being siphoned out by the leaders is being employed to fund foreign economies to the detriment of the Nigerian economy. That is why Nigeria is so rich, but the people are so poor. Nigeria is blessed with some of the best brains who can be thriving entrepreneurs that can transform Nigerian economy from a consumptive to a productive one where gainful employment will be created for the teeming masses of youths who are in crime. The most horrendous of these criminal trend is the compulsion to end human life to sell human organs to foreign buyers. Such is the extent to which the jobless people can go to quench hunger. Yet some Nigerians steal petro-trillions and billions and siphon them abroad without any sanction.

    The judiciary is handicapped because the prosecuting police , EFCC, ICPC and FEC officials have colluded with corrupt officials by removing and selling concrete evidence that is required to prosecute and convict offenders to the same offenders and their agents who go scot free. e.g Ibori’s case. That is why high profile cases continue to drag in courts because the required evidence to prosecute have disappeared. And so the corrupt walk free. We make bold to say that no amount of money spent on security agencies, ICPC, EFCC, police and legislation to confront boko haram and other crimes will achieve result. If capital flight continues, brain drain, boko haram and other crimes will prosper. If we want brain drain, boko haram and other crimes to die a natural death, such money and legislation should be diverted to halt capital flight from the country.

    We appeal to the President, his cabinet, leaders and members of the National Assembly to initiate legislation and action to prohibit capital flight. They should remember that they came to this world with nothing and will leave with nothing. Our late political leaders and money-bags left this world with nothing. They should have compassion on the people of Nigeria who are being dehumanized day-by-day by hunger, poverty and darkness. If they do not heed this appeal, they cannot rule out the emergence of a J.J. Rawlings in Nigeria!!!

    The economy under the NPN Government of Shagari of 1979-1983 was bad because of capital flight perpetrated by the political and economic leaders at that time. Though it was not as bad as this because the rate of capital flight at that time was not more than 10%, the capital flight now is over 90% of the total resources of the country. But when General Muhammadu Buhari took over, he changed the money that had been battered and consequently discouraged capital flight. The economy where one dollar was exchanged for over one naira (100+ kobo) in value during NPN regime improved to 37 kobo per dollar under Buhari regime thereby solving the economic problem at that time. People were gainfully employed, electricity supply was uninterrupted, people were well-fed and there was discipline and peace. There was no reason for fellow Nigerians to carry arms and bomb themselves over any issue. A bag of rice under Buhari regime was less than thirty naira, and a carton of Holland peak milk (96 tins) sold for less than twenty four naira. A drum of vegetable oil was less than 48 naira. A carton of the richest baby food (6 tins) was 10 naira, and a bag of cement was one naira seventy kobo.

    Behold, the successors of the NPN are the PDP. Haba!!!

    Enough is enough.

    A word is enough for the wise!!!

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