Yusuf Maitama Sule: As a minister in charge of oil, I had no money to build a house

December 23, 2012 18 Comments »
Yusuf Maitama Sule: As a minister in charge of oil, I had no money to build a house

Dr. Yusuf Maitama Sule Politician, Diplomat

If he were cast in a film as the major character, a fitting title of such a film would be, The Inevitable Man. Dr. Yusuf Maitama Sule is inevitable. Since before independence, he has been a vital player in the political sphere of this country. Every era, every political dispensation finds him relevant, strategic even.

A conservative of the original version, Maitama Sule is a true Nigerian – he speaks romantically about the country and wishes that it returns to prosperity and plenty as it was advancing before it was halted by greed; before, according to him, we became entangled with and overpowered by “a negative culture, culture of extravagance.” The 80-year-old Kano indigene dreams desperately for a return of decency in the polity, godliness in relationships and consideration in social interactions.

As long as anyone would remember, he has remained consistent in these quests, which is, perhaps, one of the reasons every dispensation finds him relevant  – inevitable. Every regime in this country preaches those sermons – some tried to cultivate them, some admire them but cannot afford them.

This interview has been long in coming, since June when the first contact was made. Last week, the man was in his elements and convenience was at home. He was in Abuja to attend to some personal and national matters – they don’t retire indeed, do they? Some things must come up that will keep them on the road. It was the man’s circumstance last week, but he slotted us in his programme. “You can come on Friday and when you do, call me to know where I am,” he told me.

“Thank you very much, sir,” I said. I was prompt but as it would be expected, I had to wait for another two hours. By this time, Bayo Obisesan, the group’s photojournalist in Abuja, had joined me from his State House beat. It was at the Sheraton Hotel. Eventually we were asked to come up to the man’s suite. He had just finished eating, from all we could see. He had with him four younger men of aristocratic turnout and disposition. We later learnt that some of them are his sons and grandsons. He was pleased to receive us and knowing that he had, had a busy day and was spoiling for more activities yet, I plunged into the interview.

An orator of renown, he is a delight to discuss with. Trouble though is that, he is so fecund upstairs and robust in discussion that it becomes a struggle throwing in follow-up questions. And he discusses with such oratory and homily that one is faced with the danger of being carried away and forgetting that one ought not to be emotionally involved. Our subject has a way with words and he is very conscious of it.

Once Nigeria’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations, he spoke passionately about the country’s glorious past and wondered why today’s Nigeria cannot be instructed by the spirit of that period. He wishes that the prudence, sense of duty, commitment and service will direct the minds and hearts of today’s drivers of the Nigerian wagon. His life is indeed like a tale one hears under the moonlight – far-fetched, if not incredible.

An instance: “When I was sending my family home after the coup (1966 coup), I had no money, I had to borrow money from my permanent secretary and a friend in Lagos. I had to hire lorry to carry my goods to Kano. I had no bank account then, no bank account anywhere in the world. And I came back to Kano to live in (my father’s) mud house.” And here was a minister in charge of oil. Sadly, they don’t come this tough, this principled and unspoilt anymore. And, as he told us, time and circumstance have not altered all that.

Here’s the life of an icon:

Sir, let’s start from the fact that you should be staying in your own house in Abuja, and here you are in a hotel. Are you running away from anything?

I have no house in Abuja, none in Lagos, none in Kaduna.

That’s unusual, for a man of your status in society. A Nigerian of your standing should have not less than three houses, at least here in Abuja, and you sit here and tell me you don’t have even one.

Well, that is what I have chosen and I am quite happy and quite contented. In any event, I believe in the division of responsibility. In the Holy Qur’an as well as the Holy Bible, Allah said you should stick to your responsibility to which you are destined and I am sticking to my responsibility. I am a politician, not a businessman. It is the wisdom of the Almighty, The All Wise that we are different. It has a purpose. Some of us are rulers, some are Talakawas – the ruled – some are patricians, some are plebeians, some are sellers, while some are buyers. Some are workers, some are politicians and so on and so forth.

Each has a role to play in the society, we all complement one another and each one of us should stick to his own responsibility. I remember the late Premier (Sir Ahmadu Bello) used to tell us, “You can’t run a race and at the same time be scratching your buttocks;” you can’t do two things at the same time. If you are a minister, he used to tell his ministers, “You should remain a minister. You must not be engaged or concerned with business. If you want to go into business, I will encourage you, but you have to resign your appointment as a minister. You can’t have both.”

I believe in that. I am a politician and I have been a politician and that is the wish of God and I thank Him for that. As a politician, I am to serve the people, not to be served. I am not to go into business. I should not use my position to go into business and try amass wealth, using my office, no, I don’t believe in that. I was Minister of Mines and Power from 1959 to 1966 when the coup took place. For almost seven years, I was there.

I was in charge of oil – the first minister of oil after independence and perhaps the longest-served minister of oil. But I tell you this: When I was in office, I was given a piece of land in South-West Ikoyi, like all other ministers. My colleagues developed theirs, how they did, I don’t know. I could not develop mine. All around me, the plots were developed.

Then a lawyer friend of mine, a West Indian, one Mr. Burke, came and introduced a company that was willing to develop the land for me. The company, without the knowledge of lawyer Burke, told me in confidence that they would develop the plot for me free if I could give them a contract in ECN, now NEPA, it used to be Electricity Corporation of Nigeria. If I could give them a contract in ECN, they would develop the plot for me free and I said I wouldn’t do that. Well, they came back and said they were willing to develop the land, but after building, they would rent it out, collect their money and after the number of years rented expired, the house would come back to me. I agreed.

They started developing the land, half way they stopped and said they had no money unless I could give them the contract, otherwise they couldn’t help it. But I said, “Well I am sorry I cannot, what do we do?” They said they had to sell the land and the building that we started, pay expenses and then “give you the balance.” I said, “Well, you can do that.” So, they sold it, took their money and gave me the balance, which was about N10,000 at that time. With that money, I went to Kano and built a school in my locality.

I, therefore, did not have a house in Lagos. I didn’t bother to get one in Kaduna and still I am not interested in getting one in Abuja, because I haven’t got the means. Even in Kano after the coup, I had no house, except the mud house, where I was born and lived with my father. That was the house I went back to after almost seven years living in a palace in Lagos. From the palace house in Lagos, I went back to my mud house in Kano and started racing with rats and mice again (general laughter).

But the interesting thing is this: when I was sending my family home after the coup, I had no money, I had to borrow money from my permanent secretary and a friend in Lagos. I had to hire lorry to carry my goods to Kano. I had no bank account then, no bank account anywhere in the world. And I came back to Kano to live in that mud house.

As a minister of the Federal Republic?

Yes, after seven years as the minister in charge of oil, electricity and minerals. Now I remember Peter Enahoro coming to see me after the coup – we were friends in Lagos and he decided to come and visit me in Kano. He was told I was somewhere…in my building site. I was building a new house, because our house that we came back to was too small. He came to the new building site and he found me putting a structure in mud and bamboo. “What?” he wondered, and I told him, “This is what I can afford?” It was a bigger house though, still of mud. I was quite happy I built my second house of mud.

The second one of mud?

Yes. But the house I am living now is not of mud; it is of concrete. It took me six years to build the house in Kano – the one I am living now, it took me six years to build. I could have built it in six months if I had the means. And, no architect drew the plan, no engineer supervised it, but it looks nice, if you see it, you will think it is something marvelous. It was a local builder that did it, but I’m quite happy. What else do I want? (Panning his hand) Look at these boys around, my sons and grandsons all sitting comfortably with me, discussing and exchanging views. Is there anything better than this at my age?

Maybe we should go back to the beginning. Your beginning, how was it? How was your growing up like?

I thank God, I was said to belong to a family of slaves. It was my father’s master that sent me to school. He loved my father so much because he and my grandfather were together as the favourites of their immediate master.  You see, this question of slavery in the North is something that you don’t understand – slaves were almost as important as the rulers, because they were the power behind the scene.

I was sent to school by this my father’s master with his own children and grandchildren. He is the local ruler, the Madaki, the chief kingmaker in Kano. When I was a young man in the elementary school, now primary school, there was one thing I used to do; I took it upon myself to sweep the whole of my quarters. I would take my broom and sweep the whole quarters. I would go into the local mosque in our quarters and sweep the inside as well as the outside. I used to do that on my own–nobody told me to do it.

I was a child born with a silver spoon. My father was a favourite of his master and so was I a favourite of my own father.  Suddenly, before I went to the middle school (the next was secondary, part-secondary, part-senior primary school) this man died – my father’s master – and things became hard. Sometimes I had nothing to eat and my father was such a proud man who would not allow me to go to anyone or to any house to eat. He would rather sneak out at night and then buy me some cassava and groundnut. Then, I went to the middle school.

I was lucky in the middle school that another person from my own quarters, from the same family as my father’s master, was the headmaster of the middle school. His son and I were friends, we were the same age and I was lucky he took me up and he developed interest in me, and luckily, I was brilliant. He was taking good care of me, watching me, and he sent me to Kaduna College. Two of us went from Kano that year to Kaduna College in 1943 and then in 1946 we graduated, and I came back to my alma mater, the middle school, and started teaching.

When I came back, the youths in Kano became very much interested in me and we became friends. We had in those days a division between the patricians and the plebeians, the rulers and the ruled, and there was no love lost between them. But I became friendly with the plebeians, although I was from the patrician side. As a result, I discovered that many of my friends from the other side did not go to school. So, I opened the evening class for them – the plebians, the Talakawas.

We were together, about the same age. I was teaching them and then, I said we should try to solve this problem, do away with this animosity and antagonism between the two sides. So I formed an organisation called Kano Citizens Association, which brought both sides together to promote mutual understanding, mutual love and cooperation.

It was that Kano Citizens Association, together with similar organisations in Sokoto, Bauchi, Kaduna and Zaria, that came together, amalgamated and formed the NPC, first a cultural organisation in 1949. It was in June 1949 at the Green Hotel in Kaduna that we launched the NPC, a cultural organisation with Dr. R. B. Dikko a Christian in the North, as the President-General of the organisation. He was the first president of the NPC, but it was a cultural organisation. He was a medical officer with the government. One business tycoon in Lagos, Alhaji Sandana Alhaji by name, was the deputy president. I was 20 years old, but because I represented Kano, I became vice president number one.

While Mr. Rafi, traffic inspector, became the second vice president. Umar Agayi was the secretary-general. Isa Wali was the assistant secretary general, while Mallam Haya Gusau was the financial secretary, Abubakar Imam was treasurer, Mallam Makama Kano was the publicity secretary, while Aminu Kano and one Mr. Julde were joint auditors, Mallam Saadu Zungeru was the legal adviser. That was how the NPC started as a cultural organisation.

In 1950, some of us broke away from the NPC, not broke away; some of us from the NPC formed the NEPU. I, together with one Bello Ijumu from Kabba, formed this NEPU; Bello Ijumu, he is a Yoruba from Kabba. Ijumu is a town in Kabba. That was the very first political party in the North that survived. Mallam Aminu Kano was not one of the founding members. He later joined, but he gave it life. But for Mallam Aminu Kanu, NEPU would have died.

He had the charisma and the courage that withstood all sorts of things and he made it what it was.  Now, I was in both–NPC and NEPU. In the end of 1950, during the NPC Convention in Jos, the decision was taken that all those that belonged to NEPU were expelled from the NPC.

Why was that?

Because they said we had become political, although we were not political. I remember, we opened the first branch of NEPU outside Kano in Jos after we had been expelled.

Before we left Jos back to Kano, we called on the youths in Jos, most of them were from Kano. I remember I spoke to them in the house of one Alhaji Akawo Namata and they all agreed to form a branch of the NEPU and we launched that branch. This is why Jos people are very political. They were the very first branch of NEPU outside Kano. Now, later, I argued that since NPC was not a political party, one could remain in the NPC and at the same time in NEPU. I did not declare that I had resigned from NPC or NEPU but I was with the NEPU all the same. Mark you, I was an NA employee.

I was working for the Native Authority in the middle school as a teacher. The NA was almost synonymous with the NPC. They knew what I was doing, then in 1954, I was to be the first adult education officer, the decision was taken, a week later they changed it. They said I was too young to be an education officer and my headmaster was recommended and I was recommended to be his deputy. I refused to accept the offer, because I was to be the chief education officer. Why change it? Why did they recommend me at first?

The senior district officer was a good friend of mine. He called me in his office and gave me the offer, which I rejected. He was surprised and then he asked, “What do you want to do?” And I said, “I want to go into politics.” He said incidentally, “have you been to England?” And I said, “I have never been to England”. He said, “I will recommend you.” So he recommended me to go to England for eight weeks; there was then a programme, eight-week study tour to the United Kingdom.

While I was there, arrangement was going on for the election, the first direct election to the House of Representatives. Previously, people were elected to the Regional Assemblies and from the Regional Assemblies they were elected to represent the regions in the House of Representatives in Lagos. But this time in 1954, people were to be elected direct from the constituencies to the National Assembly.

NEPU fielded Mallam Aminu Kano in the city of Kano, most NPC members were reluctant to contest against Mallam Aminu, because they knew he was very popular. I was away, in my absence, unknowing to me the NPC decided to adopt me as their candidate, to contest against my leader and the very day I returned from London, I was told about this decision and I said but I don’t belong to the NPC anymore.

They said well, you were one of founding members; you will now go back to it. It was like an instruction, I went to see Mallam Aminu Kano in the evening and told him and he said, “Well, I knew it before you came back. Go and contest, you and I are the same. Politics without bitterness: that was Mallam Aminu Kano. I contested the election, when people saw that I was on the way to winning, they started manoeuvring. First, they told the Emir that I should not be the one to represent Kano City. Then, I refused to listen to them. Later, the present Emir, Ado, was a friend and about the same age, he said he was appointed to contest as an independent and I said, “Look, if you do that, you’ll break my own votes, you will split my votes. Neither you nor me would win.”

He said, “What do I do?” I said, “Well, you should launch a campaign of blackmail. How? You go round and tell people that you are contesting as an independent, the news would get to the Emir and the Emir would report you to the Premier, the Premier would invite you. If he invites you, tell him that you are not interested in going to Lagos but you are interested in coming to Kaduna, but the Emir has not given you an assurance and he is not willing to sponsor you to contest.”

We did that and he was eventually called to Kaduna and he told the Premier what I told him and the Premier telephoned the Emir, he said, “Well, Ado is not interested in going to Lagos, he wants to come to Kaduna, but he is not sure you would sponsor him”.  The emir said, “Who told him? My intention is to sponsor him.” “Should I tell him this?”

The Premier asked and the Emir said, “Yes, it is all right.” So Ado came back and told me that he had been given assurance that he would contest the regional election, so he left my seat. It was electoral college. Members of NPC had majority than the primaries and if all of them were together and voted for me, certainly, I would defeat my teacher, leader, former boss. So in the final college, I was elected, that was 1954.


18 Comments

  1. jahili December 23, 2012 at 2:10 am - Reply

    Quite a refreshing read. I ve always known that this man is of humble beginning and a well respected nigerian.
    what I did not know is what a down to earth nigerian he is. Having not amassed wealth is another shocker. Who can believe that a man who occupied the oil, power and minderal resources ministry of this nation did not acquire choice properties with illegal and stolen money. For once in a long time, Dr. Maitama Sule comfirmed once again that any nigerian who sticks to his actual pay cannot afford the luxory of to day’s public servant or politicians.
    Pls find time to complete this interview. This man is a rare gem to behold. Is Maitama Sule not the Julius Nyerere of this country.Who can imagine the heights of this nation with a person of his character and conviction being in charge of our nation’s saddle. Only God knows what would have being, and may God continue to bless you for thinking of your fellow citizens.

  2. Ebiyi December 23, 2012 at 5:08 am - Reply

    What a patriot Maitama Sule…I have a lot of respect for you sir, a perfect defintion of elder statesman and a role model,may God continue to strenghten your health.

  3. Dele Odugbemi December 23, 2012 at 5:53 am - Reply

    I grew up to know this great man as a man of high integrity and i have thought North would have sponsored such a decent man for president in 1979 instead of Alhaji Sheu Shagari who had no serious political experience like Baba Sule Maitama.
    Aside for being a Minister for long period in a ministry of oil, mines and power, he was also a Nigerian permanent representative in UN for some years too among other top appointments at federal level but all these appointments the great Man remained decent and contented with what God has provided for him unlike those criminally minded people that are in top government offices from local through states to the federal levels.
    Shame on all of them that destroyed this great country while i pray that God will continue to protect Baba Sule Maitama.
    I give kudos to the SUN for serving us with freshly refreshing interview that makes our weekend enjoyable.

    • OGBENI NAIJA December 30, 2012 at 6:11 am - Reply

      Shagari truly did not have have political experience,that was why Akinjide,Diko,Akinloye etc were able to manipulate his brain with BENSON & HEDGES,JUST FOR HIM SIGN DOCUMENTS WITHOUT READING OR KNOWING IT CONTENTS.

  4. Kenny December 23, 2012 at 6:11 am - Reply

    Happiness lies in been contented. That’s why you are happy. Ironically, those slaves of oil blocs can never find peace of mind.

  5. Kingugo December 23, 2012 at 6:37 am - Reply

    Very nice one. I cant wait fo the conclusion. Alhaji Mataima Sule is a role model.

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  7. N. Azubuike December 23, 2012 at 10:45 am - Reply

    What a rare man in our time.

  8. chuks December 23, 2012 at 1:48 pm - Reply

    An honorable man worthy of emulation.That is why he is not on the limelight in this era of looters.

  9. njo December 23, 2012 at 2:26 pm - Reply

    I am not surprised why you are so old and still vibrant. Many of your colleagues died amassing wealth and suffering from stress struggling to safeguard it. Material things are left for lower mortals while the things of the spirit are for higher beings.Alhaji Sule is of higher being.You went for the best which only higher mortals recognise. More grease to your elbow.

  10. Young December 24, 2012 at 12:27 am - Reply

    Good to be good

  11. Ibn Ibrahim December 25, 2012 at 2:39 pm - Reply

    The most interested part of his story,is his reference to d holy books of God. According to him, in d holy Qur’an as well as d holy bible,Allah said u shld stick to ur responsibility to which u are destined and i am sticking to my responsibility. I am a politician,not a businessman. It is d wisdom of d Almighty,d all wise that we are diff., it has a purpose. Some of us are rulers,talakawas-d ruled,plebeians,sellers,politicians and so and so forth. Each has a role to play in d society,we all complement one another and each one of us shld stick to his own responsibility. The statement above upheld d essence of politics and d notion behind system theory. For those who defined politics 4rm this standpoint,politics is an instrument used by political leaders to “reconcile” a conflict interest in an organized society in regard to d distribution and allocation of scarce resources in line with international best practices. Similary,those who view society 4rm d biological standpoint(sys.theory),argued that,d society is made up of different parts and this parts are interraleted & interconnected working harmoniously 4 d survival of d society. They further contended that,if any parts fail to perform its role,d society will be stagnated and can even collapse. For instance,if d EFCC fail to arrest & prosecute properly corrupt nigerian politicians who has been siphoning funds ment 4 developmt,there will be unemploymt,poverty,ignorance & d result has affected us nagetively.e.g boko haram,kidnapping e.t.c. Finally,”he wishes that prudence,sense of duty,commitment and service wil direct d minds and hearts of today’s drivers of nigeria wagon”. This can be interpreted as good governance, transparency and accountability which d current govt. lacks. Infact,d man is a role model.

  12. JOSEPH ANYAECHE December 27, 2012 at 2:32 pm - Reply

    IT IS A VERY REFRESHING INTERVIEW.AMB SULE IS WHATNIGERIA USE TO BE BEFORE THE SO CALLED NIGERIAN ARMY DESTROYED IT ALL.HAS HE WRITTEN ANY BOOK? I SURE WOULD LIKE TO GET A COPY.

  13. jahili December 28, 2012 at 12:58 am - Reply

    The noble one, I am still amazed, I do not see any list of long unearned appellations behind your name. I am pretty sure you way more than deserved the country’s highest honours, no borrowed Ph D title, no chief, no MBE, no CEO, inspite of the fact that you rightly eared all of these. Yours is a role model of life worth emulating and passing down to those who have ears and brain to learn. Be sure to leave us with a befeating memoir, and please write a book to reflect these loftly ideals so that this generation can learn a thing or two. Indeed you are in the same rare class with the likes of Chinua Achebe. You are the Julius Nyereres of Nigeria. May God continue to protect you.

  14. deji December 29, 2012 at 7:47 am - Reply

    This man is from northern nigeria. It shows that you have Nigerians with integrity from the north.

  15. A Y January 3, 2013 at 12:27 am - Reply

    A man of timber nd calibre, a man of mahogany, an iroko tree of Nigeria Politician of all generation. May Allah spear ur life 4benefiting more 4rm u.

  16. Sam Ade January 5, 2013 at 10:17 am - Reply

    Can we go back to this era of leading the people of Nigeria with the fear of God and love/care for the masses. His Excellency Alhaji Maitama Sule has demonstrated this. Please can l have the email address of this man l need to write him a letter of commendation. No house in Abuja, Lagos and even Kaduna? Am a christian but you have demonstrated the essence of living and service to humanity in the fear of God. God bless you sir wishing you long life, good health and God’s prosperity. Sam from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

  17. SHUWA January 12, 2013 at 3:49 pm - Reply

    It is very difficult to get such Nigerian with honesty of purpose and mind set. He is very honest like General Buhari who also does not have house in Abuja or Lagos, both served as oil minister. Look at former Bayalsa Governor who has 48 houses in choice areas of Abuja. Our former northern leaders are very honest and contended except the present thiefs with their southern counterparts ameshing wealth as if they will not die. May Allah bless Nigeria with such a leader.

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