Nigeria not ripe for state police – Obasanjo

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From MOSHOOD ADEBAYO, Abeokuta

Former president Olusegun Obasanjo on Thursday in Abeokuta, the Ogun State capital faulted the call for state police by some Nigerians, warning that it was not the best for the country.

Obasanjo spoke while playing host to the Assistant Inspector General of Police in charge of zone 2, Mamman Tsafe, at his Abeokuta Hill Top residence, saying the country was not ripe yet for state police. According to the Obasanjo, the establishment of state police would be inimical to the corporate existence of the nation.

While reasoning that state police was susceptible to manipulation, the former president recalled the experiences of native police during both the pre-independence and early post-independence era were not palatable.

His words: “You know I’m a young man but I have been around for quite some time and those of us who have the experience of local government police, native authority police and the atrocities they committed against opponents, not just political, but economic and social opponents.

“Now we dread the idea of those days coming back. I believe what we have now, people who have maintained institutional memory will know that we didn’t wake up one day to be where we are. “Certain things lead us to where we are, but nothing is static; I believe we may also be making progress and move on and get to a stage where we can say yes we are matured, we have reached a stage where even we can have city police. “But by my own experience, with the short span of life I have as a Nigerian, we should not repeat the experience of the 50s and 60s.”

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  1. BABA undoubtedly You are the Father of DEMOCRACY and we pray You live long span of life (amen). The prison system and operation was more worst than state policing, almost all nigeria prisons were congested, poor funding, outdated structure and poor rehabilitation facilities. most of the awaiting trials committed state offences and these causes fiscal burden to federal govt, state police will not only cause jurisdictional problem in areas of arrest, prosecution, investigation and crime controls with other securities angency but collapes prison system and operations totally.

    • Therefore, state criminal must continew to make life unbearable for innocent Nigerians because our prisons have been congeated. Haaa !!!! If you do not know what to write on an issue, you better stop waitting your time. Your writting here shows how poor your intelligent is. OBJ should keep shut with his old mentality of saying that Nigeria is not ripe for development and deviation from central police system. Anybody who fail to upgrade his intelligency daily and oil his system with mordern technology is a best friend of ignorancy. Yes!!! A friend of the most adamant enemy of human being on earth_ignorancy.

      • Try and visit prison to see the ordeal of prisoners after that you will adamantly agitate for state prison not state police you are laughing for because you can not even commend the sacrifices of Nigeria police definately you will also condem the state police you are crying for, Mr Samu.

  2. I agree with Baba that Nigeria is not yet ripe for state police. But as for Nigeria been one there has never bn a time that Nigeria is one. Nigeria is divided by tribe, language, culture, religion and etc. The earlier we know this the better and those who know this and continue to force others to belong may be doing much harm to this country. The earlier we seperate the earlier we realize our different dreams faster.

    • i think you’re naive! you have not taken ur time to go through history of great nations. what happens when things fall apart?

    • Grat talk,enen nigeria amalgamation Expires in 2014 by queenogech 9.01am on 25 sep 2011.The amalgamation of south and northern nigeria by the british,was to be experimented for 100 YEARS if it’s going to work or not.Implication of the document.By 2014 nigeria will no longer legally Exista ccording to the secret goverment document,this fact is known to the ruling class.

  3. Baba is simply an igbo man who does Not know that Nigeria of 50s and 60s re different from nigeria of today..its a Common knowledge old People re always conversative who finds it difficult to accept changing Realities..State Police in my opinion is what we Need now to meet the security challenges facing our present Country.No Stranger can Police a neighbourhood better than indigene of that particular area who knows every Bad Person by name.Those who re opposing State Police re retrogressive who cannot afford to See our Country move forward for Good..Nonsense!

    • @ Chidi allow reasons to govern you, we need to address more important issue not to introduce family police. Federal police is the best for Nigerian ‘s present level of maturity, more over we have local vigilant groups every where ,unity of Nigeria should be paramount in this kind of situation.

      • When the Northern Governors oppose the idea of state police all of you call them names. now OBJ is saying the same thing the Northern Governor said it is now the right idea.

        It is very unfortunate that we are so tribalistic in Nigeria.

      • What is the Nigerian present level of matuarity? What have we acheived with the federal police? A family police will surely knows a family criminal and his hide out. you better think very well before you made a contribution, because your write up here contradited itself. We do not only need state police ungently now in Nigeria but also local government police is badly needeed. Each nigerian family also need a police in their compound and within the family.

        • Mr sam-sam why are you not secure? If can not answer this question, try to open your mind not your eyes, to have too many security agencies can not solve insecurity problems, Nigeria police only required statutary reform in areas of training, recruitment, posting based on areas of choice i.e area known by the police and state identity. I.G.P office should also have financial independent on police welfare and project. So mr Sam try to understand Nigerians not try to tell who you are by your comment

  4. Any international thief thief must always be against any progress dat can stop their evil act. 4rn election rigging to kidnapping and robbing of political opponents, it can only be best police by the indigen of those areas concern. U cannot ask somebody 4rm desert to go and police the gulf of guinea and get the result. Though i know dat in nigeria politics has taken over everything, hence the senior boss of all the security formation we ve presentely can never aggree 4 a new formation. But my concern is on hw we can ve a crime free society.

  5. The military is always trying to check the operations of the police in Nigeria.state police is a right for any democracy.we need state police,

  6. BEFORE WE CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT STATE POLICE WE SHOULD FIRST OF ALL LOOK INTO THE SO CALLED VIGILANTE GROUPS; HOW THE RICH USE IT AGAINST THE POOR AND THOSE THEY CONSIDER THEIR ENEMIES. IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STATE POLICE, WE SHOULD TRY NOT TO BE MYOPIC OF WHAT I CAN TURN OUT TO BECOME.

    I AM NOT SAYING THAT NIGERIANS SHOULD NOT GO FOR IT AFTER ALL I AM NOT LIVING IN NIGERIA, BUT I MUST WARN THAT IT WILL DEFINITELY BECOME GOVERNORS POLICE AND THEY WILL OPPRESS THE POOR WORST THAN NOW.

  7. Ethelbert Opara on

    But we were ripe for ‘3rd Term’?
    That it failed before does not mean that it can not be refined/modernised to suit our present needs.
    We are so intellectually lazy in Nigeria that our governments, particularly the Fed Govt, do not practice Research and Development(R & D). That is why we easily give up to some challenges we are not sure of their end results.

  8. Baba Obasanjo, you said that Nigeria is not yet ripe for state police as you said when wills it ripe? Till them kingdom come
    Please we need state police now, it is already over ripe we should thinking lose of lives and properties wasted by army robbery, Boko haram and kidnapping, and forget what GOVERNORS can do with state police they can’t do what army robbery, Boko haram and kidnapping are doing in this country right now, we should think twice .

  9. As a law abiding citizen of this country, i sincerely believe that chief obasanjo who have never been a statesman befor becoming the president of Nigeria according to histry is inexprience of the meaning of “democracy” and when speaking to Nigerians, He speaks like one of the teachers of law in the old testament and at the sametime ruled like “moses” who was due to provocations disobeyed God and abandomed his omission on the way and will never see the promise land. Having realised his past mistakes now turned arround faulting every decision taking by his boys: yesterday it was the issue boko haram today state police while he is the abettor of our present situation’ IS HE STILL THE BOT OF PDP?

  10. If we are not ripe for state police, it means we are not yet ripe for democracy and fedral system of govt. Change is d only permanent thing in life. Dat you people didnt get it right during ur days doesnt mean dat our generation will not get it right dis time. This present police does it mean dat the presidency doesnt misuse them. State police is d answer to our present security challenge in nigeria.

  11. Baba have spoken well,in addition, some governor wil use it against there oponent, the other time osun governor was saying that he want state police, that no cp wil take directive from governor, d question is does he want cp to take directive from him to kill pdp, apga,lp,anpp members in his state? if this state police is created definitely they will surfer financialy, bcose all thier allocation will be diverted by d governors as they are doing to local government now by slashing their allocation allocation any how e.g kogi state LG staff collect 30% of their salary & that is wy there is no meaningful development at LG level. when u give somebody gun & no salary, no allowance etc definitly d worst would hapen. in my own opinion we should continue managing d existing one rather than create more problem to ourselves, when it is time fo state police nobody will tell.

  12. OBJ is simply telling us his experience with State police those good old years. We should listen to him and take his wise counsel and build on it. State police should not be encouraged at all. Even state independent electoral commission should be scrapped because they are there just to do the biddings of the governors that appointed them and thats how state police will operate at the behest of the appointing authorities. A visit to states controlled by ANPP,PDP,ACN etc show that the the ruling party at the state level also controls all the LGAs as one party state and this is not good for democracy at all as it gives no room for vibrant opposition. State Police will be used against opposition and even those that choose to remain apolitical.

  13. It is high time our constitution should be mordified to accomodate state police. All the evil thought raised concerning state Police should also be evaluated. The constitution should be mordifield so as to prvent abuse of the use of state police. How can a Governor be a chief secuirty officer of a state and yet he does not have the power to control security? The Governor should take the responsibility of security challenges in his state. The constitution should spell out the stage at which there will be federal intervention if the Govenor fall short of expectation to tackle security challenges in his state. Also the immunity being given to governors should be removed to enable them not to abuse the power given to them. Our judiciary should also be straightened. Nigerian need to sit up and move forward.

  14. OBJ and his generations have failed present Nigerian generation, expecially the young ones. The man should leave everything now and allow this present generation to rebuild Nigeria. State police is what we need now to clean all the messes the OBJ and his generation have inflicted on Nigerian. Let somebody please tell the man from OWU_OBJ that NIGERIANS ARE MORE THAN RIPE FOR STATE POLICE.

  15. If Democracy hv come to stay then its high time we change our security system,The present Nigerian POLICE are not defending the people who Employ them ,the NIGERIAN PEOPLE,they only defending the puppets or thr craze demons in aso rock,and their governors,so tell me what BABA ,OBJ is talking about,,,,,he equally use the police against his people,we hv seen all their experiment,since 52yrs now ,,,Its high time to change

  16. I think Mr. Obasanjo is the biggest problem Nigeria has today. How on earth will he be saying that what happened in the 50s and 60s with policing will be the same today. Were there car bombings, Boko Harams and Mends in the 50s and 70s? Did Nigeria have 36 States in the 50s and 60s? Did Nigeria operate a presidential system of government then? Did Nigeria have a national ID then? Was Nigeria this currupt then? Mr. Obasanjo needs to go on full retirement and quit stagnating Nigeria in the 21st century.

  17. OLD MENTALITY, OBJ IS TOO OLD AND BACKWARD IN HIS REASONING, YOU SHOULD NOT BLAME HIM, HE KNOWS THAT AS SOON AS POWER IS DISCENTRALISED, HIS GRIP ON FEDERAL POWER WILL BE REDUCED, REMEMBER HE COULD NOT WIN HIS WARD IN THE LAST ELECTION BUT HE CONTROLS THE FEDERAL POWER WITH HIS INFLUENCE IN THE NIGERIAN MILITARY AND POLICE, SO AS SOON AS THE POLICE NETWORK IS REDUCE FROM FEDERAL MIGHT TO STATE HE WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO DICTATE OR CONTROL POWER FROM HIS BEDROOM, HE IS A SELFISH MAN, WHO DOES NOT CONSIDER THE PROSTERITY OF THIS COUNTRY. HIS PRIORITY IS HOW TO PROTECT HIS LOOT, HE IS SO SCARED OF BEING PROBED, BUT FORGET THAT 6FEET IS WAITING FOR HIM, WHAT HE DID TO ABACHAS FAMILY MUST BE DONE TO HIS OWN FAMILY TOO, HE WILL NOT BE ALIVE FOREVER, WE IGBOS ARE LAUGHING SO LOUD.

  18. @Egbe and other short sighted people like him,you must be a fool refrozen abuse OBJ because of his position on this issue. He has spoken well and that must be applauded. Take it or leave it, Obasanjo is a very wise man and he speaks truth each time he opens his mouth.I accept he made his mistakes while in his position as the President, but must we continue to dwell on his past mistakes and throw away his wise advise to the detriment of the nation. You all should please step and be wise. No state Police in Nigeria,period.

  19. In my own opinion, since we hav tried policing 4rm abuja n tins r nt workin out,there is notin wrong tryin state policing n know hw it wil work. The series of lacunas in our constitution is our problems. If its posible add a clause to that aspect of constitution wen a gov faulters it should be striped of hs immunity n tried b4 then he wil first resign.this how civilised world du it nt a criminal like T.A Orji hangin on to power in the name of immunity n commiting heinous crimes.

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